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Forums like this are a moanathon, I dunno what anyone "actually" thinks, the place is full of trolls, agendas and attention seekers.
Hardly a reliable source for a general consensus.

I think if you could cut through the BS, and it did seem a particularly joyless season for most, I'd wager that except for the obvious losers most would be down on the state of the game in general rather than the performance of their own club.

course, there'll always be exceptions...icon_smile.gif

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So on the other hand...

Saints playing some of the best attacking rugby we've seen for years, and Barba the best import for years.
Fairytale end for Tomkins, Wane etc. at Wigan.
Remarkable turn around for Catalans who looked doomed by May.
Wire starting to finally justify the heavy investment in their squad.
Wakey showing how to do it without a huge budget.
Powells Cas continuing to punch above their weight.
Shock of a SL team getting "automatic" relegation.
Shock of London beating Toronto in MPG.
Fax qualifying for the middle 8s as a part time team, at expense of Leigh.
Fitlers young rookie Blues winning Origin.
Top 8 NRL teams separated by just 2 points....

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Quote: Upanunder "Forums like this are a moanathon, I dunno what anyone "actually" thinks, the place is full of trolls, agendas and attention seekers.
Hardly a reliable source for a general consensus.

I think if you could cut through the BS, and it did seem a particularly joyless season for most, I'd wager that except for the obvious losers most would be down on the state of the game in general rather than the performance of their own club.

course, there'll always be exceptions... The above is pretty much spot on, the product on the field generally poorest for 30 odd years,of the field RFl in turmoil. Out with some mates Friday had our 10 minutes wind up(there Cas fans) all agreed game on and off the field is a shambles.

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Quote: Halifax1989 "So on the other hand......'"


Exactly. It’s just a matter of spin, glass half full/empty etc. Sure there are problems - attendances, some of the rules, most of the refereeing - and the RFL is totally ineffective but the game somehow just seems to attracts miserablists. RLfans is a complete moan fest, TV commentators constantly focus on the negative and some clubs/RFL do next to nothing to sell the game or big it up.
The main gripes I would say lay at the door of the governing body so how about, instead of trolling and moaning and whinging on RLfans, everybody emails or writes to the RFL, not just once but continually, to make feelings known. They’re the only people who can actually change anything so it might just achieve something.

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Quote: Kevs Head "Exactly. It’s just a matter of spin, glass half full/empty etc. Sure there are problems - attendances, some of the rules, most of the refereeing - and the RFL is totally ineffective but the game somehow just seems to attracts miserablists. RLfans is a complete moan fest, TV commentators constantly focus on the negative and some clubs/RFL do next to nothing to sell the game or big it up.
The main gripes I would say lay at the door of the governing body so how about, instead of trolling and moaning and whinging on RLfans, everybody emails or writes to the RFL, not just once but continually, to make feelings known. They’re the only people who can actually change anything so it might just achieve something.'"


Genuine question does super league Europe ltd have a letterbox to send to and a email address ?

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Quote: rollin thunder "The above is pretty much spot on, the product on the field generally poorest for 30 odd years,of the field RFl in turmoil. Out with some mates Friday had our 10 minutes wind up(there Cas fans) all agreed game on and off the field is a shambles.'"

Same this side of the hills too, RT. Games robotic, that's after the eternity it takes for a player to finally stand up and play the ball.

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Quote: j.c "Genuine question does super league Europe ltd have a letterbox to send to and a email address ?'"


Well, the registered address appears to be -

Red Hall, Red Hall Lane, Leeds, West Yorkshire, LS17 8NB

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It took me all Winter to get over the end of the 2011 season when we actually won a trophy, than the end of this season where we’ve won nowt and lost in both finals where I feel quite positive.

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There's plenty to be happy about. The game is being played in more places than ever before, international RL is probably at its strongest point in decades. A new structure that most people have been wanting for years. The championship is closer than its ever been.
The game has a lot of problems, and people will continue to claim it's dying, like they have for the last 100 years.

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The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings".. Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything. Mary Hemmingway, US journalist,widow of Ernest Hemmingway (1908-1986) The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget The Naive Forgive And Forget The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget "I am not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde Irish Playwright (1854-1900) One likes people much better when they're battered down by a prodigious siege of misfortune than when they triumph. virginia woolf (1882-1941):icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif



Quote: Mild Rover "Obviously most seasons don’t meet most fans’ highest expectations, and RL fans are not renowned for easy and effusive expressions of joy.

However, there does seem to be more despondency around SL than normal.

From east to west (roughly)...

Hull KR - we should be happy, after promotion and survival but it has been exhausting
Hull FC - on a come down after challenge cup victories, and a dreadful end to the season
Cas - lingering sense of an opportunity missed?
Leeds - Shizzle 8s 2 of the last 3 years. Won it the other year, but that’s hardly novel now
Hudds - picked up later on in the campaign, clawing their way to dull safety
Warrington - bridesmaids twice and the long wait for another championship rolls on
Wigan - won Grand Final but many fans unhappy with style of play
Saints - didn’t win Grand Final
Widnes - I suppose their misery is balanced by the excitement and anticipation gripping London fans for their own fight against relegation.

The only positive story seemed to be for Catalans fans and, to a lesser degree maybe Wakefield’s.

Am I reading it wrong? Or was 2018 an especially joyless season? Any ideas why? The 8s format? The mess at the ptb? Wider issues?

Can we expect more from 2019? What are you looking forward to?'"


Wow our season must have been that bad we are the only team you didn't even bother to mention.

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Salford - Hastings inspired end of season, results in SL status secured for 2019, and new squad builder initiative launched.

HTH, I'm sure there's someone who can do better!

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Quote: Salford red all over "Wow our season must have been that bad we are the only team you didn't even bother to mention.'"


Sorry, brain fade!

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Mild Rover "Widnes - I suppose their misery is balanced by the excitement and anticipation gripping London fans for their own fight against relegation.'"


At the start of 2018 not may London fans would have backed us for anything other than maybe 4th. We started well and were there or there about's, had a mid season slump and then finished strongly and secured 2nd, which was an epic achievement.
Still, not many of us would have seen us as anything other than make-weights and 6th or 7th was the expectation.....until we won away at Widnes. The we started to believe and even though Leeds rolled over (how bad is that team BTW) against Toronto and we had to travel, we all believed that we had the beating of them......and we did.

2018 has been the most exciting season at London since the run to the play-offs in 2003 and we are now in Super Leage on merit. After 2 decades of "imaginary" extra payments and not being there on "merit', we are in the top tier of the northern hemisphere and in the top 28 clubs in the world. We may play out of a wedding venue, in front of 1,000 fans and only because of the benevolence of our owner, but we don't care. We may get hammered each week and go straight back down, but we don't care.....we may stay up due to Salford going belly up....we don't care....we had a great season in 2018 and will reap the rewards in 2019....if you've not visited Trailfinders then I highly recommend it as it's a great little venue that will rock if filled to its 3,200 capacity.......
....and face facts, at least we'll bring more away fans to Caravan Park than the mancpack would have icon_biggrin.gif

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The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings".. Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything. Mary Hemmingway, US journalist,widow of Ernest Hemmingway (1908-1986) The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget The Naive Forgive And Forget The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget "I am not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde Irish Playwright (1854-1900) One likes people much better when they're battered down by a prodigious siege of misfortune than when they triumph. virginia woolf (1882-1941):icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif



Quote: Call Me God "we may stay up due to Salford going belly up....we don't care....'"


Where do you get that from I must have missed my clubs demise ??? or are you just making stuff up, now that would be a first.

Anyway no matter how bad a season we have we have the luxury of knowing at least one team will be below us. icon_lol.gif

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Salford red all over "Where do you get that from I must have missed my clubs demise ??? or are you just making stuff up, now that would be a first.'"

Given your cashcow has said he's no longer bankrolling you (whilst still bankrolling you to safety in the 8's) your status as a club that is on the edge financially is well noted.....2,750 crowds aren't enough to sustain you without a benefactor.......and I made nothing up, I just "summised" what may or may not happen....but your home average dropped by 2,000 or 42% last year compared to 2017 and you have widnes to thank for not being the worst side in the comp Let's hope that this post doesn't come back to bite you on the 'arris at the end of the season......London fans don't expect anything other than a fight at the foot of the table....we're just happy to be back.

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