England couldn't beat an egg.

England has a decent chance of winning the 4 nations.

We were rubbish in the World Cup but the criticism has been hysterical and over the top

We can bounce back

No.

No you dont.

Of course not, but it's also the 4 nations

In all seriousness, there was truth in what he was saying...even if he didn't understand why he was sayign it

There is no coincidence that the England team made up of Saints/Leeds players failed. Both teams play with speed around the ruck and gain momentum that way, playing under australian conditions with the grapple doesn't allow for this.

Under 'our' conditions I think we could turn them over, depends how the convicts adapt and they usually adapt well unlike ourselves. It'll be tight.

Be interesting to see if we adopt NRL rules in SL as it'll turn the competition on it's head.

Yep, our half backs would be half backs again, it'd also benefit Wigan's style of play as well

I understand the point you're making but I disagree.




The fact that Leeds and Saints are so much better than the rest is why they can play that way. If they regularly came up against teams that can match them for skill and athleticsm you'd need more creativity to break them down.

Lack of strength in depth is the issue IMO, not the speed of the PTBs. Leeds and Saints can break teams down without having to do anything great

you could keep trying too win a test series by scooting . again

I still believe its a mental thing, we don't have the belief that we can beat them. We look upon them as super-humans. The New Zealanders don't look upon them like that. New Zealand beat them more often than us, and we seem to have a 50/50 record against the kiwis. That tells me its all in the head.