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| But the aussies always win on british soil also  |
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| Quote: Quacoe "England has a decent chance of winning the 4 nations.
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| Quote: bobm "...surely you can't be picking fault with Damo!...he's infallible'"
Of course not, but it's also the 4 nations  
In all seriousness, there was truth in what he was saying...even if he didn't understand why he was sayign it 
There is no coincidence that the England team made up of Saints/Leeds players failed. Both teams play with speed around the ruck and gain momentum that way, playing under australian conditions with the grapple doesn't allow for this.
Under 'our' conditions I think we could turn them over, depends how the convicts adapt and they usually adapt well unlike ourselves. It'll be tight.
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| Quote: NickNJ "Of course not, but it's also the 4 nations ![]()
I can see what your saying there. Must admit I'd like to see our ptb's as slow as in the NRL to encourage smarter play from the half-backs, whether any of the current crop could cope is the question. It may take years for clubs to bring some through that would be up to scratch.
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| Quote: bobm "I can see what your saying there. Must admit I'd like to see our ptb's as slow as in the NRL to encourage smarter play from the half-backs, whether any of the current crop could cope is the question. It may take years for clubs to bring some through that would be up to scratch.'"
Yep, our half backs would be half backs again, it'd also benefit Wigan's style of play as well  |
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| I understand the point you're making but I disagree.
Quote: "There is no coincidence that the England team made up of Saints/Leeds players failed. Both teams play with speed around the ruck and gain momentum that way, playing under australian conditions with the grapple doesn't allow for this.'"
The fact that Leeds and Saints are so much better than the rest is why they can play that way. If they regularly came up against teams that can match them for skill and athleticsm you'd need more creativity to break them down.
 Lack of strength in depth is the issue IMO, not the speed of the PTBs. Leeds and Saints can break teams down without having to do anything great  |
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| Quote: Quacoe "I understand the point you're making but I disagree.
The fact that Leeds and Saints are so much better than the rest is why they can play that way. If they regularly came up against teams that can match them for skill and athleticsm you'd need more creativity to break them down.
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Yes thats why Saints / Leeds play that way but that style of play will never have worked in the world cup due to the grapple tackle, the aussies only had 'our' ref once and look what that threw up.
Yep lack of depth is a major probs which relates to other issues we have in our game, but it was still the style of play we struggled with. As has been mentioned our half backs were clueless as they are used to playing with more momentum. I think this years tournament will close.
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| you could keep trying too win a test series by scooting  . again  |
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| Quote: fredie "you could keep trying too win a test series by scooting ![]()
Well thats pretty much my point, I can't understand why we have different rulings and interpretations. They need to bang their heads together and sort it out!!
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I still believe its a mental thing, we don't have the belief that we can beat them. We look upon them as super-humans. The New Zealanders don't look upon them like that. New Zealand beat them more often than us, and we seem to have a 50/50 record against the kiwis. That tells me its all in the head.
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