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I have a few connections to the Leeds club with my work and on a number of occasions i have been told he his ruining the club with his decision but because of who he is Hetherington is reluctant to get rid of him as he's scared of the backlash from the fans and sponsors etc.

Is he in danger of undoing what he achieved as a player by being such a poor coach or adminstrator whichever role it is as my leeds people are still unsure what he's actually supposed to be doing.

Also to Leeds fans is there any chance the fans will turn on him eventually or has he got a job for life at the Rhinos ?

Apparently a couple of big sponsors are not happy and are thinking of withdrawing support while he's still around, is it that bad.

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I for one hope he's bulletproof & continues dining on past glories for many years to come.

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Quote: Alan Cargill "I have a few connections to the Leeds club with my work and on a number of occasions i have been told he his ruining the club with his decision but because of who he is Hetherington is reluctant to get rid of him as he's scared of the backlash from the fans and sponsors etc.

Is he in danger of undoing what he achieved as a player by being such a poor coach or adminstrator whichever role it is as my leeds people are still unsure what he's actually supposed to be doing.

Also to Leeds fans is there any chance the fans will turn on him eventually or has he got a job for life at the Rhinos ?

Apparently a couple of big sponsors are not happy and are thinking of withdrawing support while he's still around, is it that bad.'"


Feel free to tell them there's a club who play in red/white n blue down the road who will welcome them with open arms icon_razz.gifRAY:

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Of all the reasons for Leeds' current issues, Sinfield is low down the list. I get that there's a strong desire from some to see him fail, but he's dealing with problems that well-predate his role and aren't easy fixes.

Leeds are paying for probably three years of poor recruitment and contract decisions. Those aren't easy to fix.

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Quote: bramleyrhino "Of all the reasons for Leeds' current issues, Sinfield is low down the list. I get that there's a strong desire from some to see him fail, but he's dealing with problems that well-predate his role and aren't easy fixes.

Leeds are paying for probably three years of poor recruitment and contract decisions. Those aren't easy to fix.'"
correct but why sack a coach after 6 months when he has shown where the problem lies, they have marred the memory of one player in Furner, Sinfield will join him soon at this rate

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Problem dates back to 2015 when McDermott dared drop Sinfield for a couple of games and Sinfield spat the dummy out and never forgave him. As such the first thing Sinfield did when appointed was to publicly criticise the culture, ethos and quality of a squad that were reigning champions and had been in the top 4 only several games prior. He wanted rid of any guys he saw as McDermott players and as such they aren’t playing for him.

Any criticising Hetherington for recruitment need to wake up. The stadium work NEEDED to be done and as such meant we couldn’t invest in the squad as much as we’d like. The South Stand was condemned by health and safety in 2010 and it was costing us a 6 figure fee every year to keep it open and the North Stand not in much better nick and the Cricket World Cup provided too good an opportunity not to do the joint stand.

Yes the squad isn’t the best and you hope you could add more quality to it but you work with what you’ve got. Do you not think Kear wouldn’t like a few more SL quality guys at Bradford? Or Watson at Salford, Ward at London or even Chester at Wakey wouldn’t like to be able to spend a bit more on their squad? Of course they would but they back the squad the have and try to get the best from them rather than criticise them and try and force them out of the club. McDermott I’m sure would’ve loved bigger signings to replace the retiring legends but he never complained of the quality of his squad towards the end, he just backed them to win a GF in 2017 when everyone else wrote them off.

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Quote: Alan Cargill "I have a few connections to the Leeds club with my work and on a number of occasions i have been told he his ruining the club with his decision but because of who he is Hetherington is reluctant to get rid of him as he's scared of the backlash from the fans and sponsors etc.

Is he in danger of undoing what he achieved as a player by being such a poor coach or adminstrator whichever role it is as my leeds people are still unsure what he's actually supposed to be doing.

Also to Leeds fans is there any chance the fans will turn on him eventually or has he got a job for life at the Rhinos ?

Apparently a couple of big sponsors are not happy and are thinking of withdrawing support while he's still around, is it that bad.'"


I think that could depends on who your contacts are and it what capacity they are connected to the club.

This club needs a routes up transformation, there was big issues before Sinfield came in, maybe the decisions he is making are pitting a few people noses out of joint and they don’t like it but that doesn’t mean those decisions don’t have to be made.

I’ve no idea, your contacts could be 100% right, and if they are I wouldn’t hold it against the club for getting rid of him.

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Sinfield is in a similar position to Radlinski IMO, a club legend as a player who isn't really proven in their current role and will take a lot of flak from the fans when things go wrongly, but very little praise when things go well.

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Quote: CM Punk "Sinfield is in a similar position to Radlinski IMO, a club legend as a player who isn't really proven in their current role and will take a lot of flak from the fans when things go wrongly, but very little praise when things go well.'"


I agree with this, Sinfield was always going to have people with knives out for him if there wasn’t an improvement this year, I would guess there’s a lot of people wanting him to fail, we brits love to see successful people fail.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Problem dates back to 2015 when McDermott dared drop Sinfield for a couple of games and Sinfield spat the dummy out and never forgave him. '"


McDermott dropped Sinfield because he decided to sign for Carnegie. McDermott was the one who spat his dummy out initially.

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As a wire fan, I've always had the upmost respect for sinfield. Class player and always conducted himself well. That was until I saw him at his son's teams game effing and jeffing at the ref and threatening people. The man is a bellend!

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "McDermott dropped Sinfield because he decided to sign for Carnegie. McDermott was the one who spat his dummy out initially.'"

Sinfield’s decision to sign for Carnegie was made public well before he was dropped wasn’t it?
In my head I had the announcement around March and him dropped sometime in May?

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Quote: Moe syslak "As a wire fan, I've always had the upmost respect for sinfield. Class player and always conducted himself well. That was until I saw him at his son's teams game effing and jeffing at the ref and threatening people. The man is a bellend!'"


Excellent player. Never struck me as a particularly nice guy though.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Excellent player. Never struck me as a particularly nice guy though.'"


Over rated and played with 16 other stars to make his name.

Doesn't really come across well and very Shaun Edwards like.

Edwards was class though. All Sinfield could do is kick a ball and drop goals !

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "McDermott dropped Sinfield because he decided to sign for Carnegie. McDermott was the one who spat his dummy out initially.'"


Yes because Sinfield dropped the news on the club at the last minute just before the announcement was made instead of coming to the club and talking it through and letting the news settle amongst the squad. The news that your legendary captain is retiring/moving to RU is a huge deal that can effect the squad and we were fighting for the treble.

Did McDermott drop Peacock, Leuluai, McGuire or Burrow when they announced their leaving? No because they didn’t selfishly go behind the clubs back and announce it at the last minute before it came out.

People should watch As Good As It Gets, Sinfield shows how bitter he was about being dropped (even though 2 years had passed since this was filmed). It was for 2 games yet he made it sound like he was training on his own for half the season and that he kept a diary about everything that went on that year after that but won’t say what because “things should stay in the dressing room”....yet he had the hypocrisy to publicly call out the culture and quality of the squad as soon as he was hired to win over fans and stick it to McDermott rather than keep those thoughts “in house”.

Problem with having legendary players is that certain people involved at and with the club look at them with rose tinted glasses. That’s why Sinfield got rushed into this role, does anybody really think Hetherington of all people wanted to pass over a lot of his responsibilities mid-season to somebody else? No but it was forced upon him by others at the club.

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