FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Home grown
71 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36106
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I'll be honest I'm only starting this topic because this year my club Wakefield have done quite well when in the past we have not. None the less it's interesting enough.

Name the players indoor squad who have come through your Academy into the first team.

I will accept players who moved over you your club as under 19's and players who left you but have returned so long as they were in the first team at some point (includes cup games).

In order of games played.

Regulars

Tom Johnstone
Kyle Wood
Max Jowitt
Chris Anakin

All made first team debut

Jordan Crowther
James Batchelor
Rob Moules
Judah Mazive

Yet to debut

Frazer Morris

Non Academy players who were signed young from other clubs and spent most of their careers with us/you - they don't count but are worth a mention.

Reece Lyne
Joe Ardudal
Anthony Walker
Jon Molloy

9 or roughly 30% of the squad all of whom imho are SL capable to varying degrees is not bad. I'll be happier when it's neared 40% which I personally think is about the best most teams can do and be competitive.

There is a bit of a myth in RL that teams used to be made up totally of local young lads. Thats not true, half is probably the best you can really manage and stay competitive, yes there will be exceptions (Wigan spring to mind at the moment) but generally clubs have always signed players from all over the place.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5123
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Regulars
Michael Shenton
Greg Eden
Andy Lynch
Adam Milner
Oliver Holmes
Nathan Massey

All made debuts
Ash Robson
Tom Holmes
Kieran Gill
Will Maher
Brandon Douglas
Conor Fitzsimmoms
Brandon Westerman
Declan Sheenan
Luke Million

50% of squad.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach808
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vastman "I'll be honest I'm only starting this topic because this year my club Wakefield have done quite well when in the past we have not. None the less it's interesting enough.

Name the players indoor squad who have come through your Academy into the first team.

I will accept players who moved over you your club as under 19's and players who left you but have returned so long as they were in the first team at some point (includes cup games).

In order of games played.

Regulars

Tom Johnstone
Kyle Wood
Max Jowitt
Chris Anakin

All made first team debut

Jordan Crowther
James Batchelor
Rob Moules
Judah Mazive

Yet to debut

Frazer Morris

Non Academy players who were signed young from other clubs and spent most of their careers with us/you - they don't count but are worth a mention.

Reece Lyne
Joe Ardudal
Anthony Walker
Jon Molloy

9 or roughly 30% of the squad all of whom imho are SL capable to varying degrees is not bad. I'll be happier when it's neared 40% which I personally think is about the best most teams can do and be competitive.

There is a bit of a myth in RL that teams used to be made up totally of local young lads. Thats not true, half is probably the best you can really manage and stay competitive, yes there will be exceptions (Wigan spring to mind at the moment) but generally clubs have always signed players from all over the place.'"


How about adding on players currently playing in SL, but at other clubs now, that have come through the club? That would give a good indication as to what clubs contribute most to the league and which clubs just take from others? Could be interesting reading.

DGM
RankPostsTeam
International Star2490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Hull FC

Shaul, Houghton, Hadley, Green, Bowden, Washbrook - regulars and would expect to all play 20+ games.

Logan, Lancaster, Fash, Turgut, Downs, Matongo - squad members but have all made their debut.

12/28 - 43%


Thompson, Naughton, Watts, Rawsthorne, Connor, Taylor, Sneyd, Griffin, Ellis - other English players.

Fonua, Tuimavave, Manu, Minichiello, Talanoa, Michaels, Kelly - overseas.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36106
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: caslad75 "How about adding on players currently playing in SL, but at other clubs now, that have come through the club? That would give a good indication as to what clubs contribute most to the league and which clubs just take from others? Could be interesting reading.'"


No problem with that, but in the case of Cas and Wakey it may be worth excluding Championship teams else we'll be here all day icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36106
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Tigerade "Regulars
Michael Shenton
Greg Eden
Andy Lynch
Adam Milner
Oliver Holmes
Nathan Massey

All made debuts
Ash Robson
Tom Holmes
Kieran Gill
Will Maher
Brandon Douglas
Conor Fitzsimmoms
Brandon Westerman
Declan Sheenan
Luke Million

50% of squad.'"


Thats pretty good and about the max I'd say, paid dividends for you hasn't it.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36106
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: DGM "Hull FC

Shaul, Houghton, Hadley, Green, Bowden, Washbrook - regulars and would expect to all play 20+ games.

Logan, Lancaster, Fash, Turgut, Downs, Matongo - squad members but have all made their debut.

12/28 - 43%


Thompson, Naughton, Watts, Rawsthorne, Connor, Taylor, Sneyd, Griffin, Ellis - other English players.

Fonua, Tuimavave, Manu, Minichiello, Talanoa, Michaels, Kelly - overseas.'"


Out of interest as I don't really know how it works - how many are from the joint Academy and technically do they count as a 1/2 because of the HKR connection - not that it makes a huge difference.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach808
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vastman "No problem with that, but in the case of Cas and Wakey it may be worth excluding Championship teams else we'll be here all day
icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif Probably!

DGM
RankPostsTeam
International Star2490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vastman "Out of interest as I don't really know how it works - how many are from the joint Academy and technically do they count as a 1/2 because of the HKR connection - not that it makes a huge difference.'"


None, yet.

I think all of those mentioned are too old (I think) to have played in the CoH academy, which only started in 2016.

The situation with the academy is that all the players initially were "ring-fenced" when the merger took place, depending on which club they came from. Once this works it's way through in a couple of years, it will move to a draft system I believe.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7649
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



From the 2017 squad numbersHomegrown + Regulars

S Tomkins, Manfredi, Gildart, Burgess, Williams, McIlorum, J Tomkins, L Farrell, O'Loughlin, Powell, Sutton, Tierney

Homegrown + Played First Team

Gregson, Bretherton, Shorrocks, C Farrell, Wells, Higginson, Shelford, M Davies

Homegrown + Yet To Debut


Forsyth, Ganson, Fell, Marshall, T Davies, Field, Barnes

27/37 there

The other 10 being:

Gelling, Leuluai, Nu'uasala, Flower, Bateman, Clubb, Tautai, Isa, Escare, Navarrete

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11905No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



It'll be interesting to see Toronto's, given what they are there for.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36106
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: CM Punk "From the 2017 squad numbersHomegrown + Regulars

S Tomkins, Manfredi, Gildart, Burgess, Williams, McIlorum, J Tomkins, L Farrell, O'Loughlin, Powell, Sutton, Tierney

Homegrown + Played First Team

Gregson, Bretherton, Shorrocks, C Farrell, Wells, Higginson, Shelford, M Davies

Homegrown + Yet To Debut


Forsyth, Ganson, Fell, Marshall, T Davies, Field, Barnes

27/37 there

The other 10 being

Just out of interest are they all signed as full time players as opposed to under 19's because 37 is a huge squad.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12792
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2020Oct 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



From the Leeds 2017 Squad numbers:

HG: Regulars (10)
1. Ashton Golding
3. Kallum Watkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Danny McGuire
7. Rob Burrow
11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12. Carl Ablett
13. Stevie Ward
14. Liam Sutcliffe
16. Brad Singleton


HG: Played first team (icon_cool.gif
18. Jimmy Keinhorst
21. Josh Walters
22. Ash Handley
24. Jordan Baldwinson
25. Jordan Lilley
27. Cameron Smith
28. Mikolaj Oledzki
30. Sam Hallas

Yet to play (1)
29. Josh Jordan-Roberts

Overseas (6)
4. Joel Moon
8. Keith Galloway
9. James Segeyaro
10. Adam Cuthbertson
15. Brett Delaney
17. Mitch Garbutt

Others (5)
2. Tom Briscoe
19. Brett Ferres
20. Anthony Mullally
23. Jack Ormondroyd
26. Cory Aston

RankPostsTeam
International Star17982
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Willzay "It'll be interesting to see Toronto's, given what they are there for.'"


Well, they wont have any that have played senior rugby for The Wolfpack but they may have players in their squad who haven't played RL for anyone.
Having said that, with all of North America to go at, they will have the largest "service area" of any of the clubs competing in
the 3rd tier.
They may end up with 8/10 "homegrown" players on their roster.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7649
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vastman "Just out of interest are they all signed as full time players as opposed to under 19's because 37 is a huge squad.'"



All listed as 'First Team Squad' with Squad Numbers on the website, don't know the contract details of all of them though. Suspect the top 30 are all Full Time however.

71 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
71 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


8.29150390625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40764
2m
Ground Improvements
phe13
179
5m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63254
6m
Film game
Boss Hog
5715
8m
Salford
The Speculat
42
39m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
leeds owl
20
47m
Castleford sack Lingard
phe13
12
50m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
200
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4037
Recent
Salford placed in special measures
Dannyboywt1
101
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
54s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63254
58s
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
200
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
leeds owl
20
1m
Planning for next season
LeythIg
183
1m
How many games will we win
Willzay
33
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
3
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2606
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
506
4m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
3
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Willzay
33
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
The Speculat
42
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1013
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
630
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1354
England's Women Demolish The W..
1183
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1417
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1208
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1465
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2210
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2457
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2019
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2263
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2729
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2154
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2230