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| John Bateman, Wigan Warriors, Bradford Dudley Hill
Joe Burgess, Wigan Warriors, Ince Rose Bridge
Thomas Burgess, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor
Mike Cooper, St George Illawarra Dragons, Latchford Albion
Leroy Cudjoe, Newsome Panthers, Huddersfield Giants
Ben Currie, Warrington Wolves, Golborne Parkside
Liam Farrell, Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
Brett Ferres, Huddersfield Giants, Smawthorne Panthers
Luke Gale, Castleford Tigers, Middleton Marauders
James Graham, Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs, Blackbrook
Ryan Hall, Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders
Zak Hardaker, Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions
Chris Hill, Warrington Wolves, New Spring Lions
Josh Hodgson, Canberra Raiders, East Hull
Jermaine McGillvary, Huddersfield Giants, Deighton Juniors
Sean O’Loughlin (captain), Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
James Roby, St Helens, Blackbrook
Matty Smith, Wigan Warriors, Blackbrook
Sam Tomkins, New Zealand Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
Kallum Watkins, Leeds Rhinos, Latchford Albion
Ben Westwood, Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights
Elliot Whitehead, Catalans Dragons, West Bowling
Gareth Widdop, St George Illawarra Dragons, King Cross
George Williams, Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks
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| Meanwhile, six players – South Sydney Rabbitohs George Burgess, St Helens’ Alex Walmsley, Leeds’s Stevie Ward, Brisbane Broncos Jack Reed, Warrington’s Stefan Ratchford and Wigan’s Joel Tomkins - have not been considered because of upcoming surgery during the close season.
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| Matty Smith and Ben Westwood are very questionable calls. The rest is probably about right.
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| Surprised Ferres is in, been pretty anonymous this season for us. Cudjoe and Jerry deserve it thought.
Glad to see Gale in there too, reward for a good season.
Westwood and Smith ? club colours perhaps or Mcnamara forgot to rub them out from last time ?
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| Good to see the long tradition continues of choosing Wigan players even if there are better players available in their positions. Williams? Bateman? Farrell? O'Loughlin? Smith?
I've no beef with the inclusion of Burgess - clearly one of the better wingers in the competition. But it's a bit irritating that playing for Wigan appears to grant you default inclusion. I can't believe Joel Tomkins was even vaguely considered!
No complaints about just Roby from Saints. Walmsley would have been a shoe-in, but injured.
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Good to see the long tradition continues of choosing Wigan players even if there are better players available in their positions. Williams? Bateman? Farrell? O'Loughlin? Smith?
I've no beef with the inclusion of Burgess - clearly one of the better wingers in the competition. But it's a bit irritating that playing for Wigan appears to grant you default inclusion. I can't believe Joel Tomkins was even vaguely considered!
No complaints about just Roby from Saints. Walmsley would have been a shoe-in, but injured.'"
You watched Bateman this year? He's been sensational.
Williams? He's been terrific.
Farrell? He's back on top form and was the best forward on the field last night.
O'Loughlin? He's captain and therefore is bound to be picked. He's playing well but can improve.
Smith? He shouldn't be in our team so I'm with you.
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Good to see the long tradition continues of choosing Wigan players even if there are better players available in their positions. Williams? Bateman? Farrell? O'Loughlin? Smith?'"
Feel free to name the players that are better than them in their positions.
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| looking at that, there is only 3 recognised front rowers, Graham, Hill and T.Burgess, but yet what i'd consider 7 back rowers, although i appreciate that Cooper could be both.
i've always said that the England squad is more about who you play for than how good you are, it's taken McGillvary years to get the recognition he deserves, despite playing pretty consistently, yet Burgess played something like 20 games for Wigan before he was called up.
not too many surprises though apart from maybe Ferres and Westwood and Smith, but pleased that Gale is in.
squad does seem a little bit too imbalanced for me though.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Feel free to name the players that are better than them in their positions.'"
Joe Greenwood, Jordan Turner, Dougie Charnock, Jon Wilkin and Mark Flanagan.
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Good to see the long tradition continues of choosing Wigan players even if there are better players available in their positions. Williams? Bateman? Farrell? O'Loughlin? Smith?
I've no beef with the inclusion of Burgess - clearly one of the better wingers in the competition. But it's a bit irritating that playing for Wigan appears to grant you default inclusion. I can't believe Joel Tomkins was even vaguely considered!
No complaints about just Roby from Saints. Walmsley would have been a shoe-in, but injured.'"
To be fair Wigan finished on the same amount of point as Leeds. Not like they were average all year.
Bateman has been excellent all year and was great yesterday too. Deserves to be in.
George Williams is a great shout. He will be England's 6 at the next WC. Expose him to international level and see what he can do.
Smith and Westwood are baffling selections. Would have liked to have seen Ablett in there. Not seen Hodgson play, but having seen Mcnamra prefer Brett Ferres at hooker last year, I'm not filled with confidence in him.
Always debate about who should be in and who shouldn't. But some exciting young players in there.
One worry is there only being 2 centres and I can see McNamara putting Hardaker in centre and Tomkins at full back which will be a travesty!
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Feel free to name the players that are better than them in their positions.'"
The problem is it can't be done, because the make up of the 24 is completely wrong. 5 halfbacks and 7 backrowers means they're perfectly reasoned in their inclusion ... But being 5th choice is totally unnecessary in the squad. Going with Widdop, Gale and Smith as the halfbacks is perfectly reasoned - and the result that Watts adds depth to the props means that Williams loses out.
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| 2 centres....yes, Watkins and Cudjoe, although There's Bateman, Ferres, who can cover. Maybe Leeds pairing on one side and Huddersfield on the other if he's actually gonna paly people in their positions.
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| ...Cuthbertson?
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| nope, Cuthbertson isn't in.
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