If you could pick your ideal England team. Coaches and then a 24 man squad. Apologise if there is already another thread.

Head coach: Shaun Wane
Assistant coach: James Lowes
Backs Coach: Daryl Powell
Forwards Coach: Paul Anderson
Kicking Coach: Paul Deacon

1 Sam Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Watkins
4 Reed
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 M.Smith
8 Graham
9 Mcclorum
10 G.Burgess
11 Westwood
12 Ferres
13 O Loughlin
14 Clark
15 Hill
16 Whitehead
17 Taylor
18 Walmsley
19 T.Briscoe
20 Ratchford
21 Hardaker
22 Farrell
23 Shenton
24 Bateman

Makinson - stand by
sarginson - stand by
roby - stand by

McIllorum over Clark & Roby? That Neanderthal Wane as coach? James Lowes as assistant?

I'll have 2 of what you're drinking!

Will give this a go later when I've got a bit more time to think it through.

And no Sam Burgess either? What have you been smoking at lunchtime??

Head Coach- Shaun Wane/Brian McDermott/Daryl Powell (any if them)

1. Zak Hardaker
2. josh Charnley
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Gareth Widdop
8. James Graham
9. Daryl Clark
10. Chris Hill
11. Liam Farrell
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. George Burgess
15. Craig Huby
16. Brett Ferres
17. James Roby

18. Steffan Ratchford
19. Tom Briscoe
20. Matty Smith
21. Scott Taylor
22. Alex Walmsley
23. Elliot Whitehead
24. Mike McIlorum

I don't think O'Loughlin will put himself through international duty at the end of the year though (he may even retire) so the likes of Ablett, Bateman, Westerman or even Joel Tomkins may come in to the reckoning.

A mystical cigar that spoke to him and told him Burgess is going to Bath RU?

1 player in the 24 man squad from the team top of the league? Really?

Hardaker
Hall Watkins Shenton Makinson
Tomkins Widdop
Graham Roby G Burgess
Whitehead Ablett
O'loughlin

Hill Amor Ferres Clark

Taylor Huby Farrell Westerman
Cudjoe Sneyd Charnley Ratchford

Is that before the 4 Nations then, as soon as his season with South Sydney is over? Apologies if it is, thought he may still be around to play for England before moving codes.

Yes, he goes straight to Bath and won't play in the four nations which is a shame.

I'd be really confident about us progressing again in this four nations if we had two things-

1- Sam Burgess
2- A different coach

How anyone can pick Mcillorum is beyond me. On form he isn't in the top 3 hookers in the league.

Nor on ability.

weren't there something a few weeks back about Trent hodkinson wanting to play for England because his dads English?

Yeah but he hadn't turned out for NSW then. Now that he has that ship has sailed.

Head Coach: Shaun Wane
Assistant/Mentor: Wayne Bennett
I'd then have people like Sculthorpe, Peacock, Sinfield etc all involved with the squad in some capacity be it water boy on match day but involved regularly with the squad.

1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Widdop
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Hill
11. Farrell
12. Ferres
13. Westwood

14. Clark
15. Burgess G
16. Huby
17. Whitehead

18. Burrow
19. Charnley
20. Bateman
21. Walmsley
22. Ablett
23. Taylor
24. Westerman

I know Sinfield will be in this year, and I don't mind that for another year or so with him as captain and then hopefully will hand over. Who to is an issue. Possibly Graham but is he captain material? That's not a slight on him, some people just aren't suited to be captain.
O'Loughlin - I don't think he'll be available and is he a risk injury wise if he is available? He's a cracking player who is as important to Wigan as Sinfield is to Leeds but unfortunately his injuries seem to have caught up with him.
I've also left Matty Smith out, not because I don't rate him but because I think Tomkins & Widdop are better and Burrow offers something a bit different to those 2 that Smith doesn't. Plus Burrow can cover hooker. If any of Tomkins, Widdop or Burrow were injured then I'd have Smith in like a shot.

Can't believe people are omitting the form centre in the league, Shenton.

More tries than any other centre, equal try assists (which are the most) in Super League with Moon and 3rd most metres for a centre (2nd English centre) behind Watkins and Gelling (who could arguably be a winger too).