At the moment it's more reasons to try and not give a try. Almost seems like they're trying to overturn tries with this obstruction rule sometimes.

This second one looks like it will be given and for me it was more of obstruction than the first...

i agree. I didnt think either were obstruction but if you had showed me both of them and said one was obstruction i would have said the 2nd.

on the back of the Ryan Bailey inability to disappear when metres away from the runner, and the other 1.5million given yesterday, and the 3 or so already today the current interpretation is showing how bad it is.

Said for a long time Thaler the best ref around, last night and his video ref impression today blow that theory.

The obstructions were bad enough, but to come up with a charge down for that Bowen knock on was bordering on insane. You are sin binned in union for that.

The charge down decision was appalling. I really don't understand how you can have a job as a referee when you mess something up that easy.

I've already seen some calls about the ref Silverwood having a shocker. He isn't actually doing too bad, it's his video ref and touch judge (who I think gave the nod for Clare knocking on the high ball early on that wasn't touched by him) that have let him down massively here.

Silverwood did make some calls early on for obstruction that clearly were obstruction, but because they didn't result in a try it wasn't open to the VR to judge those and he got to the right conclusion on his own.

Unfortunately decisions are made by letters of the law instead of ref's using common sense and basic game knowledge. I'm ok with the Bowen shoulder charge, letter of law, wrong. Reality it was ok for me.

All it did was reduce the score...Cas would have been a lot more in front.

The shaven ape's really poor attempts at mind games backfires most amusingly.

Well done Cas - far better team on the day, and playing a much more watchable style of rugby.

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remind me who are saints playing tomorrow for a semi final spot?

The shaven ape obviously likes self-parody, him having a whinge about officials letting the opposition control the ruck speed.

shaun wane complaining that the officials let the opposition lie on and slow the ruck down

Cas deserved winners no doubt. If I were a Wigan fan though I'd be tearing my hair out about that sloppy laying-on penalty that Jack Hughes gave away at 4-6. Cas had to endure a tough 10-15 prior to that and he let them off big time.

Thought at 4-6 Wigan would snatch it and that Cas whilst impressive in so many departments had too many disappointing kicks that allowed Wigan to start sets higher up the pitch than they should've done and that would be their undoing. For Wigan, they looked uncharacteristically unorganised and lacking structure in attack near the Cas line......that BTW is not to say that Cas weren't great in defence, just Wigan can look at the tape on Monday and be disappointed in some of the things they did/didn't do with ball in hand.

Thought the main reason why Wigan would win pre-game (apart from obvious home field advantage) is something I questioned when Leeds played Cas a few weeks back.....their defence. They've put up some good showings against the top teams this year but conceded too many points in those games (even when they beat Wigan at home they shipped 30 themselves). But today they blew that out of the water, probably even the most hardcore of Cas didn't think they'd only concede 4 points today.