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| He has scored 11 tries and 10 try assists. Ranks 5th in Opta rankings, but in fact is equal 4th in terms of SL try scorers.
Escare is the highest ranked full back and the only full back in the top 10 in SL in terms of tries scored (all those above him are wingers).
The next best full back in terms of tries scored is 19th ranked Jamie Shaul who has scored 8 tries and 3 try assists.
Zak Hardaker, with 6 tries and 9 assists is ranked 36th in Opta try scoring rankings.
However Hardaker is the top metre maker in SL with 2164 metres compared to Johnny Lomax (5 tries 9 assists) 1583 and Jamie Shaul's (8 tries, 3 assists) 1534, Matt Russell (3 tries 0 assists) 1409, Matt Bowen ( 5 tries 3 assists) 1260, and Escare's 1080.
Hardaker has only 11 missed tackles compared to Bowen's 8, Matt Russell's 4 and Escare's 25 (though this stat has to take into account the weaker team defence of Catalans compared to Leeds and other teams, which puts Escare in the last tackle firing line more than Hardaker and other full backs).
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| No, there are quite a few I would rate above him. In no particular order:
Bowen
Hanbury
Lomax
Hardaker
Without really thinking about it.
The kid's got talent, as he grows up, gets stronger and gains experience he has the potential to be a 'good un'. At the moment not even close.
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| I was about to post his defence is like a turn style in the games I've seen until you pointed it out yourself.
attack is only 50% of the game.
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| Escare is a good full back with the ball in hand, defensively can be liable to make some real big errors.
Having played around 250+ games over 13 years in the NRL and still in great form Matty Bowen is very obviously the best fb, I think others are better than Escare.
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| Quote: The Avenger "French speaking Kevin Penny'"
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| Not even close.
The problem with using stats, is they are not all equal. Just as an example, there's no stats which shows some of the outrageous try saving tackles hardaker has pulled off this year.
A player could be put into a gaping hole and pass to a supporting player to be under the sticks.
Another player could beat 2 men then get an unbelievable ball out the back door to the winger who's in at the corner.
But both would show up as the same try assist in the stats. They just aren't a complete reflection. Then can give partial guidance, but you have to judge a player by what you physically see them do on the field week in week out, and not just what the numbers tell you.
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| How would Morgan get on in front of a hostile Wheldon Road crowd on a cold wet Sunday afternoon? Not very well. Add Hanbury to the list of better fullback+ the ones already mentioned.
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| Quote: Towns88 "How would Morgan get on in front of a hostile Wheldon Road crowd on a cold wet Sunday afternoon? Not very well. Add Hanbury to the list of better fullback+ the ones already mentioned.'" How did Hanbury get on in front of a hostile Stade Gilbert Brutus crowd on a sunny Saturday afternoon? The answer is not very well, as Catalans won easily. But I guess that doesn't count as real rugby since it didn't happen in Australia or the North of England.
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| He's an outstanding talent. Probably my favourite non Leeds player. Hopefully France can find a. Few more talents like him in different positions.
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| Jamie Shaul is also better.
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| Escare is a quality little player who is good to watch. Never understood why Catalans brought in Webb. I know he needs to work on some areas but he is good to watch.
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| Morgan Escare just scored two more tries yesterday against Bradford (including a length of the field). So it will be interesting to see his standing in the Opta rankings next week.
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