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Firstly I note we are one of the 5 major sports in the UK. I digress.

I wonder if with the relatively low wages in RL we are open to this. I can't see a player deliberately getting a yellow card as it affects the team far more than in football. But if the rewards are the alleged £70k that Sodje got (a years salary to most in RL) then I can understand why one or two may well be tempted. Sad as that may seem.

Given betting seems to be totally unregulated in the far east, certainly compared to here and RL may well fly under the radar there, I can see why we might be vulnerable.
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Firstly I note we are one of the 5 major sports in the UK. I digress.

I wonder if with the relatively low wages in RL we are open to this. I can't see a player deliberately getting a yellow card as it affects the team far more than in football. But if the rewards are the alleged £70k that Sodje got (a years salary to most in RL) then I can understand why one or two may well be tempted. Sad as that may seem.

Given betting seems to be totally unregulated in the far east, certainly compared to here and RL may well fly under the radar there, I can see why we might be vulnerable.


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Spot fixing relies on one individual having an excessive amount of control over what he or his team is doing at any given point.

A bowler in cricket is in complete control of the game at the time he has the ball in his hand, so it is easy for him to influence what goes on (such as bowling a no-ball to order). In football, it is not difficult for a footballer to make a slide tackle that earns him a card and it's not difficult for a tennis player to throw a set or serve a double fault.

I can't think of many cases where an RL player is in that much control, other than potentially a goal kicker who could, theoretically, miss a kick by order of a betting syndicate (which would make such a bet more likely in union that RL) and possibly making a high tackle to order. I would think that any other type of 'spot fix' would be very difficult without the involvement of several players on the same team which, one would hope, would blow the scam's cover.

As for whether lower paid sportsmen are more affected, I'm not that sure. Matt Le Tissier wasn't on a pittance and he admitted to being involved in spot fixing.

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It would be difficult, but not impossible, for a single player to manipulate certain milestones in the match (such as score, first penalty etc) as shown by Ryan Tandy.

www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/o ... ryan-tandy
It would be difficult, but not impossible, for a single player to manipulate certain milestones in the match (such as score, first penalty etc) as shown by Ryan Tandy.

www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/o ... ryan-tandy


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I remember reading that last summer an investigation was launched into Workington following their defeat to Gateshead, I can only presume nothing came of it?

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As Bramleyrhino says it's much harder to affect things in RL than in other sports. It's pretty easy to get yourself a yellow card in football for instance yet is quite hard in RL. You could get yourself sent off quite easily I suppose but only by doing something very blatantly stupid and probably dangerous to another player.
Plus I would imagine the total betting (and therefore the amount to be gained through match/spot fixing) is lower than most of the other sports, especially football.
Doesn't mean we as a sport shouldn't be vigilant though and investigate potential incidents.

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"Psst, Kevin, so in the 79th minute, you come racing off your line, and bang, game changer, and here's £50k for you, and you'll get then next weekend off....."

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "I remember reading that last summer an investigation was launched into Workington following their defeat to Gateshead, I can only presume nothing came of it?'"


There was no investigation after it became apparent that the only source of "evidence" was a rumour started on a Whitehaven fans forum website........

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I'm no expert on this, but isn't the spot fixing issue mainly from Asia. Over here it is very hard to bet on isolated incidents such as yellow cards in football or no balls in cricket. In Asia these markets exist. I can't see RL even registering in Asia and as the above posters say, it's very hard to get in RL to get certain incidents to happen. E.G getting yourself sin binned.

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Quote: shinymcshine ""Psst, Kevin, so in the 79th minute, you come racing off your line, and bang, game changer, and here's £50k for you, and you'll get then next weekend off....."'"


I appreciate you are trying to be funny, but this post is disgraceful. I am no lawyer but I would suggest this is close to liable. So if a mod won't take it off I suggested you do.

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Quote: retirethename " I am no lawyer but I would suggest this is close to libel. So if a mod won't take it off I suggest you do.'"

You are aware that by quoting the "humorous text" in your post you are preserving it even if the poster removes the original?

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Well if that's the case then I'd suggest that the forum be closed down, since any direct inference to any players could be "liable" i.e. linking rumors/speculation of transfer activites, bans / suspensions etc.

It's shown as a "quote" to denote something that could theroectically happen, and is not a direct accusation against any individual, for any direct situation.

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What about drop goals? either how many or first score is a drop goal?????

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Quote: shinymcshine ""Psst, Kevin, so in the 79th minute, you come racing off your line, and bang, game changer, and here's £50k for you, and you'll get then next weekend off....."'"


This scenario relies too heavily on the ref actually spotting anything.

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Quote: Ovavoo ""Psst, Kevin, so in the 79th minute, you come racing off your line, and bang, game changer, and here's £50k for you, and you'll get then next weekend off....."'"


This scenario relies too heavily on the ref actually spotting anything.'"


... He's referring to the last play of the WC semi final

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Quote: LeedsDave "... He's referring to the last play of the WC semi final'"


No that's just your interpretation.

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