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Danny McGuire/Gareth Widdop

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Sam Burgess, James Roby, Eorl Crabtree[/i

InterchangeRob Burrow, Ben Westwood, George Burgess, Chris Hill/Adrian Morley[/i


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The New Zealand pack is equal to if not stronger than England's, its halves and three quarters are superior.

If SBW continues his incremental improvements each week, by the time of the World Cup, should he choose to play he may well be a game changer on his own.

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Englands back line looks exceptionally exciting (Although i hope Watkins improves his defence). Our problem is clearly in the halves. Mcnamara looks set to choose Chase & Sinfield no matter what happens this year.

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Don't think SBW will get near the kiwi team, he might make the squad.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Englands back line looks exceptionally exciting (Although i hope Watkins improves his defence). Our problem is clearly in the halves. Mcnamara looks set to choose Chase & Sinfield no matter what happens this year.'"

If Widdop doesn't start for England Mcnamara should be sectioned under the mental health act.

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SBW will defiantly be there, he will gear up throughout the season and will be one of the first Kiwis picked.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Don't think SBW will get near the kiwi team, he might make the squad.'"

Just 4 games in, he is already re-establishing himself as one of the best forwards in the game. If he's available, he'll be the first player picked come World Cup.

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Judging by the way in which sam burgess physically brushed him aside in a recent NRL fixture, I'm not overly concerned by the threat of SBW. Yes he's a great athlete but his RL skills aren't as devastating as they were prior to him turning his back on the game.

In addition, I think we've made some excellent progress in terms of our forwards being able to compete physically with the worlds best - You could argue that sam burgess is the best forward in the world right now.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Englands back line looks exceptionally exciting (Although i hope Watkins improves his defence). Our problem is clearly in the halves. Mcnamara looks set to choose Chase & Sinfield no matter what happens this year.'"


On current form, Chase will be a liability, he is not playing well enough by a long stretch (albeit behind a very poor Cas pack) and he spends half his time trying to get sin binned or sent off.
With question marks over Brough as well, we are certainly behind both NZ and Aussie.

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Quote: BelleVueLifer "Judging by the way in which sam burgess physically brushed him aside in a recent NRL fixture, I'm not overly concerned by the threat of SBW. Yes he's a great athlete but his RL skills aren't as devastating as they were prior to him turning his back on the game. '"

It was great to see from Burgess, but let's not forget that it wasn't even a mistackle to SBW.

If you've been watching SBW, it would be clear that he has returned to league as a more complete player than when he left. By halfway through the season, there will be no doubts of his ability.

I am worried about SBW playing against the Kangaroos. I think it would really silly for English fans not to be as well.

Really hope he does turn out though, it'll be good for the game and profile of the World Cup.

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Are you going on the assumption that James Graham will get banned again?

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Quote: marsh316 "Are you going on the assumption that James Graham will get banned again?'"

And also the fact Ben Te'o plays for Queensland, Roy Asotasi isn't good enough and Heremaia will be nowhere near!

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Quote: BelleVueLifer "Judging by the way in which sam burgess physically brushed him aside in a recent NRL fixture, I'm not overly concerned by the threat of SBW. Yes he's a great athlete but his RL skills aren't as devastating as they were prior to him turning his back on the game.

In addition, I think we've made some excellent progress in terms of our forwards being able to compete physically with the worlds best - You could argue that sam burgess is the best forward in the world right now.'"

It was his first game back to league since 2008, he had been involved in boxing and looked a little to "ripped" he will naturally add some weight get his body and game to match rugby league and return to his position of being one of the best forwards in the game despite not playing for 5 years.

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Matai and Sa'u have also declared for Samoa so their centre options aren't looking too strong

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He was very impressive for the Roosters today. There is no doubt about it, SBW is very very talented and will be major plus for NZ.

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Quote: Baxendale "Matai and Sa'u have also declared for Samoa so their centre options aren't looking too strong'"


I have never read that.

Matai has played for NZ and would be mad not to play for them again in the big time.

What is your source for this bizarre claim?

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