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why there isn't a Cumbria team in the Super League?

Now before there are howls of we let a French, London, Welsh team in.
I'm a strong believer in expansion but this way : heartland and expansion and hoping that the NRL goes this way West Bris and WA with a plan for Sunshine Coast and Wellington.

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Probably something to do with it having a seriously low population density, and the difficulty of existing loyalties?

I mean to have a population greater than that of a town like Warrington you need to include the top 5 ssettlements, and the hundreds of miles between them.

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There was and they got relegated. There could easily be a SL club in the Copeland area if the local RL people wanted it. But until they do its noones fault but theirs that there isnt.

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how about a new cumbrian franchise based in carlisle with barrow,whitehaven & workington acting as feeder teams...?


for me thats the only scenario in which we'd see somekind of cumbria team in SL

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Simple really one has to be established up there. The RFL tried to create one in Wales and it failed miserably on a few occasions but now hopefully will be allowed organic growth.

Cumbria is a huge RL heartland. BUT no crowds near 2,000? Not one stadium near fit for purpose (Whitehaven building but capacity of about 5,000?). I don't think there is a full academy up there? (shoud be a jointly funded one between Haven & Town).

Simply of you want a Cumbrian SL side someone has to build one!

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Quote: Ant80 "why there isn't a Cumbria team in the Super League?

Now before there are howls of we let a French, London, Welsh team in.
I'm a strong believer in expansion but this way

Because none of the existing clubs are up to SL standard and no-one has put together an SL bid. Simples, really.

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Bradford are relocating there

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Quote: tb " an SL bid.'"


Oh dear.

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If there was enough want for a Cumbrian team in SL, there would be one by now.

But there wasn't, so there isn't.

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Didn't Barrow apply last time around? What were they planning to do stadium wise?

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Quote: Wheels "If there was enough want for a Cumbrian team in SL, there would be one by now.

But there wasn't, so there isn't.'"


Can't argue with that.

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Barrow is Lancashire.

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Quote: wigan_rlfc "Barrow is Lancashire.'"


What year are you in?

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It either needs someone or a business with some cash, then it would have a chance of success.

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Realistically unless a club can draw around 8000 crowds they can't be long term sustainable without significant private backing. Which cumbrian club could achieve that?

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