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| Not good is it, it really needs a re-think. Its a sad indictment of the competition.
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| It's a difficult situation. If it goes to 5 or even 6, plenty of teams will have nothing to play for after about half the season and, theoretically, will lead to more games played a low intensity (not something we want). But the crowds and the continuance of the one sided scoreline suggests something needs to be change.
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| Heavily (but not completely) rectified when you allow season tickets to include play-off games.
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| Top 7, 1 gets a bye,
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5
Lowest Winner v 1 at 1
Highest Winner v Remaining Winner at Highest Winner
Winners meet in final.
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| Should not be top 8.
6 or 7 at most
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| Quote: Conorgiantsfan "Top 7, 1 gets a bye,
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5
Lowest Winner v 1 at 1
Highest Winner v Remaining Winner at Highest Winner
Winners meet in final.'"
Not a fan of play offs, but if we must have them this is how it should be. League leader gets an advantage for finishing top and every game is sudden death.
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| I think we should go back to the old playoff system.
Top 8 is far too much. Both Rovers and Hull were nowhere near good enough to be playoff sides in the first place. Yes it would mean the season is 'over' for teams in the bottom half earlier...but if they've lost more games than they've won they aren't good enough anyway.
as for the crowd issue, I think letting passholders in to the first 2 rounds has to be considered. The sight of 6K at Wigan and 7K at Hudds looked dire on the TV.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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| Something needs to change with the play-offs. The fans are voting with their feet. The play-offs should be the biggest games of the year like in Aus, played infront of the biggest crowds, it just isn't happening here.
Go back to the top 5/6 and start making tickets dirt cheap for play-off games to create some demand.
£5 a ticket IMO. The long term benefits of creating a bigger and better play-off series far ourweighs the possible slight loss in revenue.
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| Suggestions for new systems all over Twitter but I don't think
there's many who are staying away because it's McIntyre or whatever. Can't get simpler a concept than the CC semis and yet they're woefully under-attended.
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| Suggestions for new systems all over Twitter but I don't think
there's many who are staying away because it's McIntyre or whatever. Can't get simpler a concept than the CC semis and yet they're woefully under-attended.
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| Top 5.
Sort ticket pricing out.
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| A top 5 system in a 14 team league would a) significantly reduce income for the clubs, and b) produce too many meaningless fixtures in the second half of the season.
The top 8 system may be pants but IMO the only way to fix it is to go back to a 12 team league and a top 6 playoff series.
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| Improved refereeing would do for me, too many bad decisions one after the other at crucial points in the match going against teams and killing them off.
Games included in your season pass and possibly give the contenders a week off as too many of the teams have looks tired IMO!
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| I keep hearing that reducing the number of playoff games would 'significantly reduce' income for clubs. How exactly? Most regular season attendees are season ticket holders and will still turn up even if their team cant make the playoffs yet still has 10 games to go. Secondly, the teams in the playoffs will have their income 'significantly reduced' because they miss out on one or two poorly attended games? i dont think so.
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| The top five was the best system that we've had, IMO. It gave enough weighting to those that finished higher up, we lost one club every week and the only chance of a repeat fixture was in the final itself.
If that means your season is over earlier on, then tough. Who's fault is that? Super League needs to promote elite performance, not some "everybody gets a trophy day" style mentality.
As for ticket prices, am I the only one who doesn't think that £15 for a semi final is unreasonable? Do RU clubs have to give away freebies to Heineken Cup matches? Do football clubs give away FA Cup tickets? I don't believe that play-offs should be included in the season ticket (after all, you know when you buy it that you are just buying a ticket for 13 home games) and I don't think that play-off tickets should be "dirt cheap". The responsibility lies with the clubs and the RFL to make their "premium" product something that is worth paying for.
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