So watching Warrington and Wigan, I was again left thinking that the top clubs in SL and the NRL are separated only by form.

I really want to see a real Champions League with the top 4 clubs from each league and NZ Warriors and Catalan included. I've chucked my idea in full here [sizeI need to read the AUP before I post again.[/size

Most of you English are eternally pessimistic about your SL and national side, but I see no reason why the top SL clubs couldn't win a proper Champions League. What do you reckon?

I'd take this every other year in place of Test Matches which are dying a slow death I think with the constant repetition of tri/four nations since 2004.

Would be great to see. BUT once it got took seriously, surely we'd start losing, much like the WCC.

But it's league, big ideas aren't ever going to be given the go ahead or sponsored or backed.

the ESL grand finalists v the NRL grand finalists, 2 semi finals split into SL v NRL then a final.......held down under in feb...simples

What? Held down under in Feb, when neither side will be ready?

Balls. Hold it in July instead of the Challenge Cup.

Why not in October, when those finalists still have roughly the same squads?

If you recall in about the third year of Super League we had a mid-season competition between all the Super League clubs and the Aussie Clubs.

Apart from the odd exception the Aussies won hands down but it was still good to watch.
The format wasn't quite right but instead of allowing it to evolve it to a regular feature it was scrapped after the first year.

If we'd persevered with it we may now have had a top class international comp.

So Catalan or New Zealand Warriors don't have to be good to play in it. Hardly a Champions League.

They are the best teams in NZ and France so it would make perfect sense.

And I've read your proposal. You call it a Champions League but then say it should be a closed shop, based upon attendances and squad depth. How is that a Champions League? So how do Wire beat Hull? Because they've had two good years? Hull have a bigger fanbase than both Wire and Saints. Go back five years and the Bulls would have been in there.

Also, who would benefit financially? The participating clubs? Why should they get richer on the back of a closed shop? Equally, why would they take part if the shares are spoiled, so they can put out burned out players.

Ill-thought out nonsense.

They are the only top flight clubs in those countries. On that basis, we should get a trophy, because we are the best side in Wakefield (although we would probably lose in the final).

I know most people in Wakefield no nothing of the world outside it, but its not a country.

I must admit, I enjoyed the daliance with ELS vs NRL, but it would just show us up. WOuld like to see it again though.

I think you'd accept that we are a breed of homo sapiens unlike anything found anywhere else. That makes us a race.

The problem with the proposal is that two of the teams play in the same league as the actual champions. You could have the situation where neither of the finalists of the "Champions League" even made the play-offs.

So make it a pure champions league, and have the best from each league. But if it is to have any interest, SL has to play NRL in each game, and so you could end up with two NRL sides playing each other to prove themselves champions when they had done that shortly before in the Grand Final.

The World Club Challenge does the job well enough. It only works in football because of the number of leagues, and I kinda think that the players play enough games as it is. What benefit is there for any of the clubs? To say that they are the best team across the world? As there are only two leagues, hardly a boast.

Aren't Castleford the best team in Wakefield?