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I've just had a look on the website for the league I play in, and noticed an article about the potential switch to playing in Summer (link below).

www.pennineleague.co.uk/story.ph ... &story=205

There seems to be alot of animosity towards the RFL (''Despite unwelcome overtures to their member clubs from the rugby football league''), with the article putting the words 'Traditional' and 'Truly Independant' in caps locks.

As a player, the benefits of the club playing in Summer RL far outweigh the costs. Last season we had a gap of six weeks mid-season due to games being called off. We trained on a muddy, sloping park covered in dog poo as we can't get our floodlights onto our proper training pitch. I could go on and on, and that's before mentioning the benefits to junior RL and to skillful players.

Has anyone else encountered this 'flat-cap' attitude from their leagues and have any leagues fully made the swtich? Does anyone still think RL should be played in Winter?
I've just had a look on the website for the league I play in, and noticed an article about the potential switch to playing in Summer (link below).

www.pennineleague.co.uk/story.ph ... &story=205

There seems to be alot of animosity towards the RFL (''Despite unwelcome overtures to their member clubs from the rugby football league''), with the article putting the words 'Traditional' and 'Truly Independant' in caps locks.

As a player, the benefits of the club playing in Summer RL far outweigh the costs. Last season we had a gap of six weeks mid-season due to games being called off. We trained on a muddy, sloping park covered in dog poo as we can't get our floodlights onto our proper training pitch. I could go on and on, and that's before mentioning the benefits to junior RL and to skillful players.

Has anyone else encountered this 'flat-cap' attitude from their leagues and have any leagues fully made the swtich? Does anyone still think RL should be played in Winter?


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A bloke I know who's a coach in a non-RL area put it like this 'whats easier, getting a kid to start playing league in mid february in the mud, rain and cold or in the summer holidays?'

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I play amateur level in Hull too, and I would be happy with it as long as the pitches we would be playing on have grass on them! Towards the end of this season we were playing on dust bowls, more injuries occurred as a result. Now, our pitch is fantastic but some others left a lot to be desired

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It would tempt me to put a pair of boots back on tbh and im only 23. Ive just got far too many better things to do on a cold winters night than run 2 miles to my nearest club training and then run 2 miles back afterwards. A summers night however..

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My views are here from May: www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... 16395.html

this has been the biggest thing going on for our club for the past six months. We attended the NW planning meeting in February and have been with the process from the start (right through to another NW planning meeting last night).

What is irritating me (especially the way the League Express has been a mouthpiece for it) is that certain people seem to have forgotten that individual clubs are their own self-standing entities and will make decisions based on what is right or not for them. Club officials SHOULD do so in conjunction with their members and represent them (see: www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... _id=338337 for an update to our members on last nights meeting). Some of the stuff said, and things like like that encountered above, imply that as clubs we should do as BARLA or our leagues want and that we are not independent and that the RFL hasn't a right to contact us. It is barmy! If anyone wants to contact my club they are free to do so - no permission required from anyone else.

What is essential is that each club makes its decisions based on the best information it can gather. Certain parts of the game have been seeking to manipulate and control the information flow and that is what has been most disappointing.

ps. if you're a player and unhappy with the decision of your club, vote with your feet. whether that be to go to a side staying in winter or one moving to summer. it's all about having a choice and making a decision.
My views are here from May: www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... 16395.html

this has been the biggest thing going on for our club for the past six months. We attended the NW planning meeting in February and have been with the process from the start (right through to another NW planning meeting last night).

What is irritating me (especially the way the League Express has been a mouthpiece for it) is that certain people seem to have forgotten that individual clubs are their own self-standing entities and will make decisions based on what is right or not for them. Club officials SHOULD do so in conjunction with their members and represent them (see: www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... _id=338337 for an update to our members on last nights meeting). Some of the stuff said, and things like like that encountered above, imply that as clubs we should do as BARLA or our leagues want and that we are not independent and that the RFL hasn't a right to contact us. It is barmy! If anyone wants to contact my club they are free to do so - no permission required from anyone else.

What is essential is that each club makes its decisions based on the best information it can gather. Certain parts of the game have been seeking to manipulate and control the information flow and that is what has been most disappointing.

ps. if you're a player and unhappy with the decision of your club, vote with your feet. whether that be to go to a side staying in winter or one moving to summer. it's all about having a choice and making a decision.


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Quote: Wilde 3 "I play amateur level in Hull too, and I would be happy with it as long as the pitches we would be playing on have grass on them! Towards the end of this season we were playing on dust bowls, more injuries occurred as a result. Now, our pitch is fantastic but some others left a lot to be desired'"


That's the argument usually used.

But isn't the reality that if the pitch wasn't churned into a farmers field by the beggining of March then there would be something to grow come spring.

Once the grass grows it there to stay. You only get a dust bowl when the sun dries out bare soil.

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All it takes is to let the grass grow, everyone is saying pitches will be as hard as frozen and more injuries will happen because pitches arent always frozen in the winter.

My opinion is we must be losing a lot of kids in the winter who dont want to get soaking wet and cold stood on the wing! The aussies are brought up on these grounds in a hotter climate.

I for one am looking forward to watching my club in shorts, and also it will be easier doing paperwork with my hands not frozen!

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getting frost bite at age 14 when playing pendle or bolton in february (that was my experience) is all part of sculpting well rounded individuals, steeled to take on the rigours of modern life and endure all the hardships the fates can throw at you. Winter is character building, now man up folks! k020.gif

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Quote: Dico "It would tempt me to put a pair of boots back on tbh and im only 23. Ive just got far too many better things to do on a cold winters night than run 2 miles to my nearest club training and then run 2 miles back afterwards. A summers night however..'"


I'll show my ar$e at turnpike if your only 23.

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As long as amateur adult clubs have a choice then there shouldnt be a problem.

There is no way kids should be playing Rugby League in the winter though. It makes no sense and to I am confused why the kid leagues have not been scheduled to mirror the professional competitions.

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In answer to the OP the Cumberland League have fully switched to summer for 2012. They will be playing a short interim season from Aug to Dec this year and the new full season will start in March 2012. These last 2 winter seasons practically no games were played from mid Nov to mid Feb.

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Does the Pennine League control junior leagues? Obviously open-age clubs and players are free to do what they want, but if the Pennine League are going to try and stop juniors from switching then their attitude could be bad news. The game will be better off when it's finally rid of these dinosaurs.

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Quote: headhunter "Does the Pennine League control junior leagues? Obviously open-age clubs and players are free to do what they want, but if the Pennine League are going to try and stop juniors from switching then their attitude could be bad news. The game will be better off when it's finally rid of these dinosaurs.'"


dont know about Yorkshire but in North West you have a series of seperate leagues.

The NWC 8 - 12
The NWC 13 - 15
The NWC 16 - 18
The NWC open age

The leagues covering 8 - 18 have all had votes and each voted to switch, each as a league, to a March - November season.

The NWC open age will continue as a winter league.

A new open age league will run a March - November summer season.

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Quote: j.c "I'll show my ar$e at turnpike if your only 23.'"


Hope its not too cold for you; my fb is clear to view on my profile and always has been.

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Quote: j.c "I'll show my ar$e at turnpike if your only 23.'"


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I remember playing full back for Leigh Rangers at Blackbrook in mid january and tackled a winger into touch in the last minute of a 60 odd-0 hiding and we both slid into the water bucket as the ref blew for full time. Probably the coldest ive ever been in my entire life.

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