FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Stupid Dumb Play-Off System.
27 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star1869No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51864_1312823830.gif
Just Win, Baby [b:38co1fbc]GIANTS RAIDERS TOFFEES[/b:38co1fbc]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51864.gif



I got lost with it. Why not reform it into a) the AFl's System or b) the NRL System, or even c) Create a Conference system, and use that?
It's just drives me mad

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner2473No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9357_1623419489.png
[img]https://i.imgur.com/yQKRyyP.jpg[/img]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9357.png



It seems to work out though doesnt it?

1st vs 2nd same as for the last 4 years

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach49No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2013Nov 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



i do like the NRL version for the variety of matches that could happen.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1652No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Dec 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40092_1305980910.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40092.jpg



Quote: MidlandsWarrior2 "It seems to work out though doesnt it?

1st vs 2nd same as for the last 4 years'"


One thing i don't like about it is like Warrington ended 3rd but got Saints away, Huddersfield 5th and got Crusaders at home, to me that's not exactly fair.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner17198
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9243.jpg
:9243.jpg



Quote: Who are ya!! "One thing i don't like about it is like Warrington ended 3rd but got Saints away, Huddersfield 5th and got Crusaders at home, to me that's not exactly fair.'"


Warrington got a 2nd chance that's why it was fair, it isn't the RFL's fault that coulden't win either game.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1448No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2010Dec 2010LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



icon_sad.gif I've gotta admit something has to be done,the attendances for high profile play off games are utterly dismal. Wigan less than 10,000 for one of their games Leeds v Wigan less than a normal league game between the sides, and Saints, less than 14,000 for the last ever game at Knowlsey Road. Personally I detest the play offs. How could someone who wins the league fair and square at the seasons end NOT be true champions??

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4240No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
24148_1315916334.jpg
[quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. :CLAP: [/quote:1xb0p6sn] [quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg



Quote: spooneryork "

They've won the league, proven they are a top team, get given the most advantage of any club. If they can't perform under pressure then they dont deserve to be SL champs. Play off system is how its (nearly) always been done in RL. League leaders deserve a bit more credit than is given at the moment but IMO the play offs are brilliant!!

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2051.jpg
The older I get, the better I was Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator." cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg



Quote: spooneryork "

Yup, we could call it a day at the end of the regular season and that would be that.

All that money generated from the play-offs, not just gate receipts but little incidentals like Sky money, sponsorship etc. could all go elsewhere.

Sounds like a plan, a fooking stupid plan admittedly but pretty much par for the course as far as you're concerned

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14490No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024May 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1114.jpg
[size=100:vu4p4lio] [b:vu4p4lio]Check out [url:vu4p4lio]http://www.fourpointtry.com[/url:vu4p4lio][/b:vu4p4lio] [/size:vu4p4lio]:1114.jpg



Quote: spooneryork "

Would you be prepared to backdate it through most of the RL / NU history ?

Mike 'Stevo' Stevenson's Dewsbury won it from 8th in '73 ... The Dewsbury team that won the Championship Final were the legitmate champions for that season and it is the one all the history books list.

It's interesting to note all the complaining about the play-off system comes whilst they are going on and hardly any during the off-season or the start of a campaign.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5103No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2014Jan 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
5542_1326072230.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5542.jpg



I think the system needs looking at. To have two teams play each other twice before the final says to me that there is something wrong with it. Maybe go back to 5 or 6 team system of the past? Either way it needs a rethink along with the clubcall idea.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach512No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2020Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
28639_1285124636.gif
"oh why did he kick that ball? that's why it's a try!":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_28639.gif



Quote: AdmiralHanson "Would you be prepared to backdate it through most of the RL / NU history ?

Mike 'Stevo' Stevenson's Dewsbury won it from 8th in '73 ... The Dewsbury team that won the Championship Final were the legitmate champions for that season and it is the one all the history books list.'"


The playoff system was necessary prior to 1973/74 due to the fact teams didn't play everyone twice, thus creating an imbalance throughout the regular season, and you need [iimbalance[/i to justify a playoff system IMO - to which, one extra game ("magic weekend"icon_wink.gif doesn't create enough uncertainty that the team who finishes top shouldn't be champions.

Even in the NRL, there are 24 games played - from 16 teams. There are potentially 6 games missing from a straight home/away league season creating uncertainty, and not giving any team sufficient reasons for thinking they should be champions prior to the playoffs.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1652No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Dec 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40092_1305980910.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40092.jpg



Quote: UllFC "Warrington got a 2nd chance that's why it was fair, it isn't the RFL's fault that coulden't win either game.'"


Put it this way, if we would of beat Hudds, then we would of played Saints away again.

So how is that fair we end 3rd, and could of ended playing two games away from home what kind of reward is that.

The top 4 should all get home draws straight away, why can't they just do a simple 1st vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th and so on, do a straight knock out.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach14082No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2017Feb 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9857_1341488583.jpg
WEST COAST PIRATES NRL expansion? Sometime soon, maybe......:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9857.jpg



I like them, for us finishing 7th wouldn't have felt much of an acheivement but reaching the playoffs does. Knocking FC out in a playoff game makes the season a great success icon_smile.gif

Reality is whilst the SL is still so disparate in talent spread playoffs or not the top 2 or 3 teams are always going to win it anyways generally.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman956No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1484.jpg
:1484.jpg



Quote: Who are ya!! "Put it this way, if we would of beat Hudds, then we would of played Saints away again.

So how is that fair we end 3rd, and could of ended playing two games away from home what kind of reward is that.

The top 4 should all get home draws straight away, why can't they just do a simple 1st vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th and so on, do a straight knock out.'"


You got the second chance after losing to Saints, but the price you paid for that defeat was to be away this weekend if you had beaten Huddersfield. Saints were rewarded for winning and you had to pay a price for losing. Nothing wrong with that.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6268No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2015Jul 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Right to the bloke above, this is the AFL system, I would prefer the NRL system but ours is the evolution of that.
If you want to give a much bigger benefit to the team finishing first have a top 7 where; first gets a bye 2v7, 3v6, 4v5 and straight to the semis 1st plays lowest ranked winner, cuts a week from the season and fairer all round imo.

Lastly how can someone complain about repeat fixtures then propose returning to the top 6??? that was the biggest waste of time because of that issue... madness.

27 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
27 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.46630859375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Leigh it is
WWste
102
8m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40183
9m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
62589
10m
Film game
Wanderer
4085
17m
Recruitment rumours and links
Smiffy27
3181
Recent
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
7
Recent
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
Vancouver Le
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
38s
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
12
39s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2421
39s
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
7
43s
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
47s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
10104
54s
Grand final Tickets
NickyKiss
7
58s
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
1m
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
1m
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
NickyKiss
7
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
7
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
Or thane
92
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
12
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
192
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
287
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
824
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
873
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1253
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1476
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1212
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1622
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1321
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1558
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1735
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2073
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1688
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1722
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2046
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 3,025 80,13214,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R31
09:30
Melbourne
v
Penrith
       League One 2024-R26
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
       Championship 2024-R29
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
     Womens Super League 2024-R16
16:30
York V
v
St.HelensW
 Sat 12th Oct
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R30
18:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
 Sun 27th Oct
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sat 12th Oct
SL
18:00
Hull KR-Wigan
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 5th Oct
CH 29 York27-10Widnes
SL 29 Wigan38-0Leigh
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 28 759 336 423 46
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 28 682 479 203 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Leigh it is
WWste
102
8m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40183
9m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
62589
10m
Film game
Wanderer
4085
17m
Recruitment rumours and links
Smiffy27
3181
Recent
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
7
Recent
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
Vancouver Le
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
38s
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
12
39s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2421
39s
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
7
43s
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
47s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
10104
54s
Grand final Tickets
NickyKiss
7
58s
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
1m
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
1m
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
NickyKiss
7
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
7
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
Or thane
92
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
Ilkley Fax
10
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
12
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
192
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
287
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
824
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
873
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1253
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1476
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1212
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1622
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1321
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1558
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1735
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2073
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1688
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1722
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2046


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!