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The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein.
This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him playing for Samoa (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria).
If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing.
The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players.
The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in.
This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay.
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| I thought Samoans got through on the EU/Kolpak ruling, as exempt from quota?  |
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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg |
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Don't the Home Office have their own criteria when it comes to granting work permits? (Something like "must have played certain %age of NRL / internationals?).
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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg |
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| Quote: Richie "I thought Samoans got through on the EU/Kolpak ruling, as exempt from quota? ![]()
Under the old system, yes (provided that they could get a work permit).
The quota today is based on where a player was trained, not on their nationality. You could be an Australian and still be considered as a 'home trained' player.
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This is not anti wakey. '"
No really  Aye O.K |
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "
The quota today is based on where a player was trained, not on their nationality. You could be an Australian and still be considered as a 'home trained' player.'"
I'm pretty sure Shad Royston @ Halifax falls under that criteria if thats a help to anyone. |
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Quote: Marsdengiant "The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein.
This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him playing for Samoa (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria).
If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing.
The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players.
The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in.
This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay.'"
www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source=
Think this may be the same Frankie playing for Samoa against England and scoring.
Think he also played for Samoa v Tonga Sept 2006. |
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Quote: Marsdengiant "The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein.
This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him playing for Samoa (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria).
If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing.
The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players.
The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in.
This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay.'"
www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source=
Think this may be the same Frankie playing for Samoa against England and scoring.
Think he also played for Samoa v Tonga Sept 2006. | |
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| Quote: Marsdengiant "The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein.
This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him ]playing for Samoa] (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria).
If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing.
The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players.
The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in.
This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay.'"
And how do you know this? |
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Googled him but can't find any proof whether or not he has played for Samoa.
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Quote: No1_Saints _Fan "Googled him but can't find any proof whether or not he has played for Samoa.'"
www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source=
Think he was actually on the books of Sydney Roosters at the time,unless this is a completely different Frank Winterstein |
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Quote: No1_Saints _Fan "Googled him but can't find any proof whether or not he has played for Samoa.'"
www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source=
Think he was actually on the books of Sydney Roosters at the time,unless this is a completely different Frank Winterstein | |
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/article.html?in_article_idThink he has been at the Roosters.
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| Arn't we mixing up quotas and visa/work permits here.
If he has a Samoan Passport then doesn't he have a more or less automatic right of entry under the Kolpac agreement? Whether he has played enough NRL or international games would not matter.
The fact that he would count as a quota player is a different issue altogether, isn't it? Or have I missed something. |
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| Quote: Wembley '83 "Arn't we mixing up quotas and visa/work permits here.
If he has a Samoan Passport then doesn't he have a more or less automatic right of entry under the Kolpac agreement? Whether he has played enough NRL or international games would not matter.
The fact that he would count as a quota player is a different issue altogether, isn't it? Or have I missed something. ![]()
Try telling that to Marsdengiant!!!!!
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| Quote: No1_Saints _Fan "Think he has been at the Roosters.'"
Thought so.
It looks like he has played for Samoa then,in the Fed cup in 2006.
Its interesting that the topic starter has now gone quiet - he seemed to make an issue out of the fact he hadnt actually played for Samoa,which now appears incorrect. |
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "Don't the Home Office have their own criteria when it comes to granting work permits? (Something like "must have played certain %age of NRL / internationals?).'"
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