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Seems like Saints might be losing to all the relegation candidates. A weaker team than the one that lost to Toulouse named. Rhinos surely going to win.

One to look at if anyone fancies a last minute bet.

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Nah, I'll stick with Saints by plenty.

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Jack Walker playing for Leeds or for Saints?

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Nice easy win despite being decimated by injuries. The difference is, Leeds first choice props are the equivalent of St Helens back up props.

Not only that, Leeds have wasted a load of money on a back rower In Bentley who is absolutely gash. He looked good when Saints carried him.

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Was watching the game with a slight delay… woke up late… but it seemed to me that almost every Leeds set drew a penalty or repeat set… was it just the sleep in my eyes?

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Quote: Spookisback "Was watching the game with a slight delay… woke up late… but it seemed to me that almost every Leeds set drew a penalty or repeat set… was it just the sleep in my eyes?'"


Correct. James Child tried to help Leeds

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Though Leeds put a lot of energy into their defence in the first half but the gaps opened up out wide in the second half. Morgan Knowles is a tackling monster by the way he held things together when Leeds had a lot of possession.
The biggest problem for Leeds is the attacking structure is just not there far too lateral and not enough creativity.

Saints losing to Toulouse and winning at Leeds means those two teams are in a dogfight at the bottom of the league now.

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Quote: Judder Man "Though Leeds put a lot of energy into their defence in the first half but the gaps opened up out wide in the second half. Morgan Knowles is a tackling monster by the way he held things together when Leeds had a lot of possession.
The biggest problem for Leeds is the attacking structure is just not there far too lateral and not enough creativity.

Saints losing to Toulouse and winning at Leeds means those two teams are in a dogfight at the bottom of the league now.'"


And people would rather have Westerman and Yates over Morgan is laughable??

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The Rhinos really are in the doldrums at the moment and it is clear to everyone, Hetherington included, that the interim coaching staff and a large proportion of the players are not up to the task. The Rhinos have made turning attack into defence an art form.

2022 is over, we now have a battle on to avoid relegation and unless we can win both games against Toulouse then we could be in a heap of trouble in twenty rounds time. Now is the time to start to rebuild with a coach who will focus on the youth in the same way the Tony Smith did and start to build a new Golden Generation.

It´s a shockingly sad state of affairs.

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I dont know where to start with Leeds woes, almost like a literny of recruitment mishaps across the board.

It often starts like at saints by thinking ex olayers can instantly be top class coaches.

That is rare.

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Quote: Sadfish "I dont know where to start with Leeds woes, almost like a literny of recruitment mishaps across the board.

It often starts like at saints by thinking ex olayers can instantly be top class coaches.

That is rare.'"


Thought they played with a decent amount of intensity last night. Saints had 6 players missing similar to the no of players missing from Leeds, but Saints have more squad depth and play with structure.
Leeds were a bit too lateral last night and allowed the Saints defensive line speed to move up with agression, they missed Dwyer last night with his quick scoots to break things up.
The best teams have good pivots in 1, 6, 7 and 9 Saints have real quality there other teams struggle in that department and. Leeds are one of them at the moment, Sezer and Austin are playing like donkeys.

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Quote: Judder Man "Thought they played with a decent amount of intensity last night. Saints had 6 players missing similar to the no of players missing from Leeds, but Saints have more squad depth and play with structure.
Leeds were a bit too lateral last night and allowed the Saints defensive line speed to move up with agression, they missed Dwyer last night with his quick scoots to break things up.
The best teams have good pivots in 1, 6, 7 and 9 Saints have real quality there other teams struggle in that department and. Leeds are one of them at the moment, Sezer and Austin are playing like donkeys.'"


Oledski apart, Leeds pack is bang average (maybe not even that good), Austin is stealing a wage and they desperately need Myler back in the side for some creativity.
It's bizarre to think that pre season, many people were tipping Leeds as a top 4/5 side - maybe in the Championship they would be icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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I watched the game with the sound down thanks to that base drum, so I don't know what interpretations/excuses were given, but i thought Child was very charitable towards Handley twice, the stiff arm and the up ending were both sin bins in my eyes.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Oledski apart, Leeds pack is bang average (maybe not even that good), Austin is stealing a wage and they desperately need Myler back in the side for some creativity.
It's bizarre to think that pre season, many people were tipping Leeds as a top 4/5 side - maybe in the Championship they would be Without getting into a discussion over Agar and his tactics or lack of, I for one thought that Leeds might have been a lot better than they are, you can blame injuries but most teams have those, but the players recruited for this season have let him down badly for my money.

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