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| Quote: saintsforever "sculthorpe named as his no1 opponent.
agree or disagree?
I’m not sure it’s possible to disagree with the fact that it is Lockyer’s opinion that Sculthorpe was his number one international opponent
Kieron Cunningham may disagree with being listed as ‘England’ though!
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| That list must be in random order surely. I mean we've had some cracking players over the years but we've never beaten them in a meaningful game whereas the Kiwi's inspired by guys like Wiki, Jones and Marshall have done them 3 times in the past 7 or 8 years in major finals.
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| In his peak Sculthorpe was outstanding.
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| i did mean to say who has been the BEST INTERNATIONAL british player in recent years
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| Quote: saintsforever "sculthorpe named as his no1 opponent.
agree or disagree?
Scully, along with Cunningham, were the players I most liked to watch, except when they played against Wigan. A very well respected, retired GB schoolboys coach, said Scully was the best player he'd ever coached and he'd seen the best of them. Surprised though Andy Farrell didn't make Lockyers' list.
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| Surprised that Farrell wasn't in there.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Surprised that Farrell wasn't in there.'"
Why? Great player that he was he was too easy to read. All the moves were directed through him because he was such a dominant figure in our game, which made us easy beats. He also had the slow motion dummy and step which was easily read. He always made mistakes when tired and chasing the game - especially kicking. Overall Scully at his best was far more effective.
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| Struggling to believe he left Karl Pratt off the list.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Struggling to believe he left Karl Pratt off the list.'"
At least you've ensured there's a Pratt on the thread!!
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| Quote: Dally "Why? Great player that he was he was too easy to read. All the moves were directed through him because he was such a dominant figure in our game, which made us easy beats. He also had the slow motion dummy and step which was easily read. He always made mistakes when tired and chasing the game - especially kicking. Overall Scully at his best was far more effective.'"
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| What's Scully doing in there.
He wasn't a stand off but David Waite played him internationally at stand off because he wanted to have 6 loose forwards on the field. So proper stand offs (Orr, Thorman, Cooke) got overlooked.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "What's Scully doing in there.
He wasn't a stand off but David Waite played him internationally at stand off because he wanted to have 6 loose forwards on the field. So proper stand offs (Orr, Thorman, Cooke) got overlooked.'"
Wasn't Thorman a scrum half? And a poor one at that?
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| Quote: Dally "Why? Great player that he was he was too easy to read. All the moves were directed through him because he was such a dominant figure in our game, which made us easy beats. He also had the slow motion dummy and step which was easily read. He always made mistakes when tired and chasing the game - especially kicking. Overall Scully at his best was far more effective.'"
Farrell's main problem was, the fact he had too big an influence on the team. That said, several times I saw him giving his all, to drag GB by the scruff of it's neck back into games. Unfortunately, others around didn't have the game to step up with him.
He did make mistakes, but that was indicative of the whole David Waite era. Even Radlinski, who an absolute rock for Wigan in SL, was dropping kicks, then Keith Senior got his hands on the ball and immediately forgot how to pass it.
I still think Farrell had a better all round game than Scully.
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| Quote: LincolnDEVILSFan "I still think Farrell had a better all round game than Scully.'"
Don't be silly. Farrell's best days where when he moved to prop forward and forgot the pretence that he was a creative player. Sculthorpe was superior in every regard bar possibly kicking.
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