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| Sport needs controversy and video refs are squeezing it out of our game. How about refs make decisions on what they see but each team's captain can overrule and go to the video referee 5 times per game. A bit like tennis players calling for hawkeye?
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| Video refs have recently been adding to the controversy with some bizzare decisions, not taking it away.
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| Quote: pilgrim "Sport needs controversy and video refs are squeezing it out of our game. How about refs make decisions on what they see but each team's captain can overrule and go to the video referee 5 times per game. A bit like tennis players calling for hawkeye?'"
Definitely. They should be given 2/3 challenges.
It's almost like is there any point going to the video ref if both teams think it's a try? Also it would stop people trying to con the ref by nodding and all that if they knew that an opposition player could just challenge it even if it's given.
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| Are you kidding?
With some of the pain in the ar$e captains running around in the game?
And what happens if the GF is decided by a terrible decision that cant be reviewed because a team used its challenges?
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| Do we really need this? What would be the point? Cricket is a confusing, tedious sport where it's very difficult to understand what's going on anyway so it doesn't matter too much there, but it would just be a pain in RL.
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| The video refs role should be cut down not added to IMO
Should just be for the grounding only.
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| Quote: The Glorious League Freak "Are you kidding?
With some of the pain in the ar$e captains running around in the game?
And what happens if the GF is decided by a terrible decision that cant be reviewed because a team used its challenges?'"
I can't see how this is made any worse by this idea? If this happens now then nothing can be done anyway.
At least with this idea, if a challenge still remains, then it can be used to hopefully get the correct decision
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| Quote: christopher "The video refs role should be cut down not added to IMO
Should just be for the grounding only.'"
I disagree. I think to make the league fair, video refs should be at every game.
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| Video refs as an idea is fine. What isn't is them getting confused over their role.
They should just look at the footage and give their opinion on whether it's a try or not. They have come up with some absolutely farcical decisions this season such as the knockonathon try by Carvell.
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| I think we should raising the bar when it comes to referees on the pitch.
When the VR was first introduced, it was rarely used, most decisions were made by the referee, in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way. This can only be dampening the on field referees sense and decision making.
The obstruction rule needs to be changed. Dummy runners are allowed on every play, apart from a try scoring play. It should be one or the other.
That'd get rid of most of the VR decisions.
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| Quote: EmmaMur01 "I disagree. I think to make the league fair, video refs should be at every game.'"
Or NO game.
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| Quote: EmmaMur01 "I disagree. I think to make the league fair, video refs should be at every game.'"
Why would that make it fair? Having a video ref is not to the advantage of any team.
Quote: EmmaMur01 "The obstruction rule needs to be changed. Dummy runners are allowed on every play, apart from a try scoring play. It should be one or the other.'"
Dummy runners are allowed on try scoring plays. Dummy runners who obstruct defenders are not allowed on any plays (try scoring or not). Just because the video ref spends a few minutes making a call that the ref normally has to make in a few seconds doesn't mean that the ref isn't making that call.
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| I believe they have a similar system in NFL in America. The coaches/captains can challenge a ref call, if they're sucessful the game continues in their favour. If not they're penalised.
Why this couldn't work in RL I don't know. Keep the current VR rules but add on that a team can challenge 3 calls and for a wrongly challenged call they give away 10 yards and a penalty
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| Quote: Roofaldo "I believe they have a similar system in NFL in America. The coaches/captains can challenge a ref call, if they're sucessful the game continues in their favour. If not they're penalised.
Why this couldn't work in RL I don't know. '"
Probably because play in the NFL is dead after each down anyway, so the challenge can be used at any point before the next play starts rather than just on try scoring incidents.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Probably because play in the NFL is dead after each down anyway, so the challenge can be used at any point before the next play starts rather than just on try scoring incidents.'"
But we don't really need it on every play as that would slow down the game to union levels of speed. The challenge system would only be needed for points were a decision would normally be handed over to the VR
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