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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Although I expected more from PNG and Wales the team that I feel have been the biggest let down is France although they made the quarter finals I think they were lucky to beat PNG and were very poor in front of home crowds in France bearing in mind the team is basically Catalans so play together week in week out

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Wales without a doubt.

France have been poor but I think the only game where I expected more was PNG. As England have dispatched France in the past, I expected a one-sided game v NZ. And Samoa were always going to present them with a difficult game too.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



The reason I didn't pick Wales was at least there games were entertaining France have scored 15 points in 3 games

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France by a country mile.....like Fiji, they only had to win 1 game to reach the Quarter Finals.

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France, team of FT pros should have done better against teams of mixed FT and part time players.

Wales and PNG disappointed me but Wales really had limited talent available and PNG were quite a young team with mostly semi pro players.

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France, by a mile then wales

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Not sure why people are so disappointed in France. Imagine Wigan playing against international teams without Richards, Bowen, Green, Flower, Dudson, Hansen, Gelling, Lauaki, Pettybourne or Lloyd, and a couple of Leigh players thrown in to make up the numbers. That's pretty much what the France side is. Things won't improve until there is a reasonable spread of players around the full-time clubs. Casty and Larroyer moving overseas should help, but they need around 30-40 full time players to be able to compete with the stronger nations. I imagine the likes of Samoa probably have more full-time players available than France.

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France. You've got to question why they were given the five drives down the middle tactics against some of the biggest forwards in the game. Then never had a plan B when it inevitably didn't work.

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France, easily. Very fortunate to be in the quarters.

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The only teams that have gone backwards are Australia and maybe England.
Teams like PNG, France, Wales and Ireland haven't improved much, if at all, and I'd say all the other sides have made big strides forward.

PNG are probably a good baseline - in 2008 they were probably 4th best going around, and now they are about 10th best, and their playing standard would be about the same - just other sides have made big strides.

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I expected more from Wales but they where atleast competitive. France have been very poor but PNG probably my biggest disappointment simply because of how much ground they have lost since the last world cup.

In hindsight the way the groups where made has probably been a bit unfair on the likes of Tonga who went unbeaten iirc when you consider France only won one game. Whether Tonga could have beaten France is another argument though.

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Wales and France, without a doubt. I expected so mch more from both of those.

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France, they are a disgrace and have been for a decade, if they keep performing as bad as they have in the last decade they will be a country that no team will want to play.

They are already nearly there seeing as England prefer a mocked up bunch of has bins dressed in some wonky medieval clothes and call them the "Exiles" rather than play France.

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Quote: TheButcher "France. You've got to question why they were given the five drives down the middle tactics against some of the biggest forwards in the game. Then never had a plan B when it inevitably didn't work.'"
Like ive said a 1000 times previously A G A R .Trent Robinson would have done a sterling job with France,Agar has dumbed down the tactics, the systems,the flair, at least under Monie(past his prime) they gave NZ a very close call having said that they bombed in the 2008 WC.Imagine Wayne Bennet in control of France Saturdays QF could have been a tricky game.

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France by a distance.

They used to have the excuise that they were filling squads with players from a part-time domestic competition or lower grades in Australia. That's no longer the case.

Point at the coach all you want, but players have to be clever enough and brave enough to play what is in front of them. This French squad appears to be neither.

You have to question whether some of them have been happy enough to drift along in a comfort zone at Catalans letting the likes of Dureau and Menzies carry them.

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