out of the current players picked who would you pick for the starting game against australia. Sorry if there is all ready another thread, havent got a lot of time.

Carl Ablett (Leeds), Tom Briscoe (Hull), George Burgess, Sam Burgess, Tom Burgess (all South Sydney), Rob Burrow (Leeds), Josh Charnley (Wigan), Rangi Chase (Castleford), Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield), Liam Farrell (Wigan), James Graham (Canterbury Bulldogs), Ryan Hall (Leeds), Zak Hardaker (Leeds), Chris Hill (Warrington), Gareth Hock (Widnes), Michael McIlorum (Wigan), Lee Mossop (Wigan), Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), James Roby (St Helens), Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, capt), Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Kallum Watkins (Leeds), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Gareth Widdop (Melbourne).

1 S.Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Cudjoe
4 Watkins
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 sinfield
8 Graham
9 Roby
10 G.Burgess
11 Westwood
12 S.Burgess
13 O Loughlin
subs
Hill
Burrows
Hock
Hardaker

bench to light......can't afford to have a back on the bench

tomkins

Hall
cudjoe
watkins
charnley

chase
sinfield
roby
graham
burgess (sam)
farrell
hock
westwood


bench-
hill
mossop
burrow
oloughlin

I would put Briscoe in ahead of Charnley. I think his strength would make him a better option against the Aussie defense than Charnley.

I would start Hill and put G. Burgess on the bench. Also, I think another front rower on the bench in place of Hardaker is sensible. Widdop is pretty versatile and Burrow can go into the halves if we need to cover any injury in the backs. Mossop or T. Burgess on the bench (for size and impact I would probably go with the 3rd Burgess)

1 S.Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Cudjoe
4 Watkins
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 Chase
8 Graham
9 Roby
10 Mossop
11 Westwood
12 Hock
13 S Burgess
subs
Sinfield
G Burgess
Farrell
Hill

Tomkins, Charnley, Watkins, Ablett, Hall, Chase, Sinfield, Graham, Roby, Mossop, Hock, Burgess, O'Lochlin

Int.- Widdop, Burgess.G, Hill, Westwood

I think George Burgess will definitely play

1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Cudjoe
4 Watkins
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 Sinfield
8 Hill
9 McLlorum
10 Graham
11 S Burgess
12 Westwood
13 O'Loughlin

14 Roby
15 G Burgess
16 Hock
17 Ablett

I know most wouldn't pick McLlorum but i think we need to get into their faces and there are few better than Micky at that. Ablett gets my pick, firstly as his recent form deserves it but secondly he can also cover the backs. Hock is the one i'm really not sure of. I think i'd pick him but tell him he only has 1 chance, blow it and he won't be considered for the rest of the WC.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Sinfield
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Hill
11. S. Burgess
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. McIlorum
15. G. Burgess
16. Hock
17. Mossop

Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Ablett
Hall
Widdop
Sinfield
Graham
Roby
Mossop
S. Burgess
Westwood
O'Loughlin

G. Burgess
Mossop
Hock
Farrell

1, Tomkins
2, Charnley 5, Hall
3, Ablett 4, Watkins
6, Sinfield
7, Chase
8, G.Burgess 10, Graham
9, McIlorum
11, Westwood 12, Hock
13, S.Burgess

Bench:

Burrow
Hill
Roby
O'Loughlin

I used to hate McIlorum, mainly because he is extremely dirty, but over the season I have learned that he is a damn fine rugby player. Wigans two recent games against Leeds he was absolutely everywhere getting stuck in firmly but fairly, I agree with the Wigan fan that he needs to start and really rattle Australia. Roby is better technically than McIlorum but he is also soft. For the first 20-30 mins we need some real hard play and McIlorum will give us that. Then some Roby on to cause some damage out of dummy half.
Also O'loughlin cannot start against the Aussie, he has hardly played and will miss tackles, let him be eased into the game.

Its a point made on decent logic (although labelling Roby as soft is a mile wide of the mark, imo).
We may as well give it a go, as its something we haven't tried for a while. I'm always of the opinion that we should pick the biggest, hardest pack we can muster and avoid lightweight forwards, so McIlorum falls into that category.
Do I think he's a good hooker, yes, but there's a few I would pick before him as an individual. If your going for a hard knock though, I suppose he's the one.
I mentioned somewhere that he's a bit like Bernard Dwyer. He was great for the saints and a very tough character, but he was consistently overlooked for international duty for the sake of Jackson or Dermott.

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