I'll have a go at St Helens 50 - 10 Bradford

If there is one game all season long that I don't look forward to then it's this.

Fri, 13th June 2008 St Helens 58 v Bradford Bulls 20, RefereeBradford BullsSubs: Robbie Paul, Joe Vagana, Adrian Morley, Jamie Langley

How the past three seasons has seen this Grand Final winning team just distingrate away.

I'm afraid another hammering is on the cards, but bugger it I'll be there behind the sticks shouting for us to win.

Best league games ive ever seen were vs bradford

Wide to west
66-4 at Odsal
21-0 at Odsal (i think it was something like that, chucked it down all game)

It was 35-0. 2003. Year we won the treble. Back when we were good.

Ian Smith gave them everything that game

All refs give the opposition everything according to you! And they say the Wakey fans whinge. Just admit it you're a club in free fall at the moment

The score won't be too bad. Saints won't be anticipating too much of a game and I'm pretty sure Potter will use it as an opportunity to rest one or two.

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you're not wrong, there is some real talent in there and it's barely 4 years ago. who do you think is to blame in the main, noble? the board?

Both paying over the odds for the players?

Really don't know, but the current crowds, and decreasing, aint gonna be able to pay top dollar.

After watching saints yesterday and Bradford on friday they better get a new score board because Saints are the best side i have seen for years.

No long term planning?

Over-relaince on signed talent and not enough youth?

Perhaps the end of a golden era?

Perhaps Elliot and Smith were significantly ahead of Noble and McNamara in terms of coaching ability?

What about the easter monday fixture a few years back when saints got beat heavily and fielded an under strengh side.

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after watching the dross served up by bradford against wire, i really fear for them at knowsley road,


saints to declare at half time

Has there been a worse signing in the history of rugby league than Iestyn Harris to the Bulls?

Tt ruined their reputation and finances off the pitch, caused a salary cap breach and used a massive chunk of salary cap space meaning they couldnt retain players.

It was also a baffling signing in terms of on field development of the team...who wants an overweight, unfit rugby union stand off, when at the same time they refused to select Leon Pryce in that same position. They also lost Peacock who left because he was told there was no spare cash for him before they signed Harris.

The costs they had to pay Leeds will have had an effect on investment in youth player development and squad training - along with marketing and promotion.

Had they not signing Harris they could (probably) have retained Pryce, Peacock and Fielden. They would also have been in a better position to recruit better players from outside the club.