FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > New Ownership Model unveiled at Bradford
42 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain423No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 20195 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2020Jan 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
77840_1575561662.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_77840.jpg



Apparently Wood has thrown his weight behind a new venture, whereby the Chairman of Dewsbury will buy 25% of the Club and Perez will front it as Temporary Chairman. It is unclear if Wood will be an investor or just ad advisor.

A number of questions arise from this, but the one I am keen to explore first, is joint ownership of more than one club, especially in the same division,as Dewsbury Rams and Bradford Bulls will be in 2020. The last time something like this happened IIRC, was when Ian Lenegan wanted to continue to invest in Harlequins Rugby League as well as buying Wigan Warriors. I believe that Nigel Wood recommended that he not be allowed do this and the resultant mess ended up with London dropping from 4.900 fans to 1,150 and out of Super League. I wonder why 1 person can now own 2 clubs in the same competition when this was blocked a decade ago?

Next is conflict of Interest. Wood, apparently a lifelong Bradford fan, was up until recently an RFL employee. He now has a position at the IRL and therefore influence in same way at the RFL. If he's there as an advisor only, then I suspect Bradford will be gone by the middle of next season.

Then there's Perez?
He has said he is paving the way for a new owner.....no call me a cynic if you like, but this sniffs like another club being bought with an eye on moving it across the pond. If not, then why is Perez not spending 100% of his time getting his other project OTTAWA up to the starting gate? Perez hasn't a pot to pee in, Bradford have used and been used by a number of charlatan investors and Ican only assume (because we're never given the facts) that Argyle or one of his mates is the real financial muscle here.

I feel for the Bradford fans who have stuck with them, but surely this is the last throw of the dice?

RankPostsTeam
International Star923No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
65584_1327407973.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_65584.jpg



Last roll of the dice? We’ve sold the dice about 2 meltdowns ago...

It’s not admin which must be the only positive but yup it stinks to high heaven again but as fans all we can do is wait until February to see if we have a team to go watch. Gone passed caring now it’s not worth getting worked up about anymore because you know it’s only going to be stop gap and then come the next mountain.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9058
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23603_1336678755.jpg
"Look, I'd never use injuries as an excuse..." Daryl Powell:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23603.jpg



Quote: AXE2GRIND "I wonder why 1 person can now own 2 clubs in the same competition when this was blocked a decade ago?'"


They still can't though they can be a minority shareholder in a second. From memory, didn't Lenagan hold shares at London for a while after he shipped out to Wigan?

RankPostsTeam
International Star11861No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
White Backgrounds/Statler.gif
:White Backgrounds/Statler.gif



I just hope it isn't some snakes scheme of moving the Bradford "franchise" to America and leave the Bulls fans high and dry.

RankPostsTeam
International Star17938
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: Willzay "I just hope it isn't some snakes scheme of moving the Bradford "franchise" to America and leave the Bulls fans high and dry.'"


Perez did a great job launching Toronto and helping them get to where they are, a remarkable effort.
But, just what is going on ?

Bradford playing out of Dewsbury may be a runner in the short term but, surely, without a move back to Bradford in a 2-3 year time frame, their identity will just disappear and you wouldn't be surprised for the dreaded "merger" question to arise.
However, with Wood and Perez now apparently involved, just about anything could happen.

It could be great news but, it all looks just a little bit weird and you get the feeling that Bradford's place in the Championship may be "on the move"

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5874No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13517.jpg
:13517.jpg



Perez is only there for a few months to try and bring in sponsorship/investment. The whole consortium are actively looking for a permanent chairman after Brereton withdrew (for reasons as yet unknown).

And there's a reason Sawyer owns 24.99% of the shares, and the decimal point should give you a clue.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1256No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Nothus "Perez is only there for a few months to try and bring in sponsorship/investment. The whole consortium are actively looking for a permanent chairman after Brereton withdrew (for reasons as yet unknown).

And there's a reason Sawyer owns 24.99% of the shares, and the decimal point should give you a clue.'"


Size of your share holding is only one of the things that can make you a Person of Influence at a club (you can only be a PoI at ONE club) and I would have thought that some of the things Sawyer is suggesting that he's doing at the Bulls (eg negotiating budgets with the RFL) could quite easily take him into one of those definitions.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3828
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18686.jpg
Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May & BORIS (W.T.F.) It's Johnson!:18686.jpg



It wouldn't be an off-season without the latest tribulations of Bradford Bulls.

If I supported them I would be beyond jaded by now.

Oh well, I suppose a little light is better than no light at all.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2167No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 20186 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2022Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: The Devil's Advocate "It wouldn't be an off-season without the latest tribulations of Bradford Bulls.

If I supported them I would be beyond jaded by now.

Oh well, I suppose a little light is better than no light at all.'"


Yep, I thought to be a Trinity fan took some doing but Bradford in recent years have taken it to a whole new level. Under all the current crud there is a potentially decent RL club, not the super club some seem to think, not the SL monster built on sand, but a potentially good SL club all the same. At the moment though that looks a million miles away, its a crying shame.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3213
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Aug 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68505_1605979550.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68505.jpg



Quote: The Devil's Advocate "It wouldn't be an off-season without the latest tribulations of Bradford Bulls.

If I supported them I would be beyond jaded by now.

Oh well, I suppose a little light is better than no light at all.'"


Most Bradford fans have come to learn that when there's a light at the end of the tunnel, it's usually an on coming train.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain13No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 20195 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Nigel Wood my god if he’s involved you know it’s going to be a Titanicsville disaster.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4525
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13619.gif
:13619.gif



Quote: roofaldo2 "Most Bradford fans have come to learn that when there's a light at the end of the tunnel, it's usually an on coming train.'"

Wouldn't mind if it was an oncoming train. It's when it keeps stopping, backs up and runs over you again.
Not only that but the last two "owners" were hand picked by the RFL and now the current one used to work for them.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach10000No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2020Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
8202.jpg
[url=//www.facebook.com/wellsmotors:2svvs5eg][img:2svvs5eg]//i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/wellsy13/Wells%20Motors%20(Signature)_zps67e534e4.jpg[/img:2svvs5eg][/url:2svvs5eg]:8202.jpg



First 10 years - SL giants.
Following 10 years - gradual decline out of SL.
Next 10 years - Championship also-rans with a stint in the league below.

You wonder when it'll turn around. P

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1242No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20186 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Rlfans - the most toxic rugby league forum in the world:



If I was a bulls fan, which I’m not, I would be happy with Perez being involved. He’s taken Toronto from being a pipe dream to super league heavyweights in 3 years.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4525
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13619.gif
:13619.gif



Quote: Steph Curry "If I was a bulls fan, which I’m not, I would be happy with Perez being involved. He’s taken Toronto from being a pipe dream to super league heavyweights in 3 years.'"

Unfortunately we don't have a David Argyle behind us. It's his bankroll that got Toronto where they are.

42 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
42 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
Recent
Watson toast
Willzay
5
Recent
have the rules changed
Spookisback
17
Recent
Round 17 Warrington Away
Les Norton
77
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
Alffi_7
2597
Recent
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
2468
Recent
Saints h
Zig
21
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Exeter Rhino
9289
1m
Squad 2024
SingaporeFax
568
1m
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
2m
Wakefield H
Peter Goddar
10
2m
Salford - Away
pmarrow
132
5m
Shopping list for 2025
Chris71
3199
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37985
5m
Arthur In
KaeruJim
38
6m
Leaving players
WelshGiant
30
6m
Round 17 Warrington Away
Les Norton
77
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
TODAY
Watson toast
Willzay
5
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
doc999
3
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Wollo-Wollo-
5
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
2
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
RealSteel89
9
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
RfE
4
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
Les Norton
77
TODAY
Saints h
Zig
21
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
batleyrhino
15
TODAY
Arthur In
KaeruJim
38
TODAY
Wakefield H
Peter Goddar
10
TODAY
Squad for Leeds
Or thane
13
TODAY
Academy Internationa
Winslade's O
1
TODAY
Jamie Humphreys NRL Debut
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
York v Dons Sunday 14th July 2024 3pm
Double Movem
4
TODAY
Warrington v Wigan Super League game to take place in Las Ve
Saddened!
2
TODAY
Las Vegas Official
TF and the w
20
TODAY
have the rules changed
Spookisback
17
TODAY
FC v hull kr
Jake the Peg
61
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
75
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
699
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1275
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1232
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2245
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1553
Big Win for England Women Over..
1416
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1658
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1747
Super League form rewarded as ..
2031
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2148
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2128
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1858
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2177
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
2268
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M 2,746 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
11:00
Cronulla
v
Wests
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
17:30
WiganW
v
St.HelensW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
20:00
LondonB
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
08:30
Gold Coast
v
Parramatta
10:35
Brisbane
v
St.George
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
York V
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
15:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
15:00
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
17:30
Catalans
v
Salford
 Sun 14th Jul
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
Wire W
v
LeedsW
       League One 2024-R15
14:00
Newcastle
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
14:00
Hudds W
v
BarrowW
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Wakefield
15:00
Halifax
v
Featherstone
15:00
Sheffield
v
Swinton
15:00
Widnes
v
Dewsbury
15:00
York
v
Doncaster
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Fri 12th Jul
SL
20:00
LondonB-Castleford
WSL2024
17:30
WiganW-St.HelensW
SL
20:00
Wigan-St.Helens
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
15:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Thu 11th Jul
NRL 19 Dolphins36-28Souths
SL 17 Warrington30-18Leeds
Sun 7th Jul
NRL 18 Sydney42-12St.George
NRL 18 Canberra12-16Newcastle
SL 16 Salford22-20Hull FC
CH 14 Dewsbury16-20Doncaster
CH 14 Featherstone66-0Whitehaven
CH 14 Swinton24-12Widnes
CH 14 Wakefield34-12Batley
CH 14 York54-12Barrow
L1 14 Newcastle0-44Workington
L1 14 Crusaders18-32Midlands
L1 14 Keighley20-20Rochdale
WSL2024 7 Wire W10-32Hudds W
WSL2024 7 York V44-0BarrowW
Sat 6th Jul
NRL 18 Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
NRL 18 Wests28-40Melbourne
NRL 18 NQL Cowboys20-22Manly
SL 16 Hull KR14-16Catalans
SL 16 Leeds17-16LondonB
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 15 427 170 257 26
Warrington 17 436 231 205 24
St.Helens 16 429 170 259 22
Hull KR 16 397 217 180 22
Salford 16 317 308 9 22
Catalans 16 304 234 70 20
 
Leeds 17 309 316 -7 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 16 246 435 -189 9
Hull FC 16 218 496 -278 4
LondonB 16 156 615 -459 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 14 520 154 366 28
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 14 353 230 123 19
Toulouse 13 344 186 158 17
Widnes 14 327 269 58 15
Featherstone 14 396 283 113 14
 
Doncaster 14 257 341 -84 13
York 15 339 305 34 12
Batley 14 217 320 -103 12
Swinton 14 284 344 -60 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Whitehaven 14 266 424 -158 10
Barrow 13 215 393 -178 10
Dewsbury 15 184 439 -255 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
Recent
Watson toast
Willzay
5
Recent
have the rules changed
Spookisback
17
Recent
Round 17 Warrington Away
Les Norton
77
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
Alffi_7
2597
Recent
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
2468
Recent
Saints h
Zig
21
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Exeter Rhino
9289
1m
Squad 2024
SingaporeFax
568
1m
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
2m
Wakefield H
Peter Goddar
10
2m
Salford - Away
pmarrow
132
5m
Shopping list for 2025
Chris71
3199
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37985
5m
Arthur In
KaeruJim
38
6m
Leaving players
WelshGiant
30
6m
Round 17 Warrington Away
Les Norton
77
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
TODAY
Watson toast
Willzay
5
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
doc999
3
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Wollo-Wollo-
5
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
2
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
RealSteel89
9
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
RfE
4
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
Les Norton
77
TODAY
Saints h
Zig
21
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
batleyrhino
15
TODAY
Arthur In
KaeruJim
38
TODAY
Wakefield H
Peter Goddar
10
TODAY
Squad for Leeds
Or thane
13
TODAY
Academy Internationa
Winslade's O
1
TODAY
Jamie Humphreys NRL Debut
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
York v Dons Sunday 14th July 2024 3pm
Double Movem
4
TODAY
Warrington v Wigan Super League game to take place in Las Ve
Saddened!
2
TODAY
Las Vegas Official
TF and the w
20
TODAY
have the rules changed
Spookisback
17
TODAY
FC v hull kr
Jake the Peg
61
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
75
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
699
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1275
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1232
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2245
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1553
Big Win for England Women Over..
1416
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1658
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1747
Super League form rewarded as ..
2031
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2148
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2128
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1858
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2177
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
2268


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!