just been looking at the attendance stats and noticed its nearly 100,000 down overall on last season and nearly 2000 down on average gates, why you think this is?

It's because Wigan have cheated their way back into being meaningful. They've found an exploit that the referees are too weak to punish them for and have slunk their dark cloud back over the sport.

For anyone confused in simple English he means Wigan have being better then St Helens and he's a little bit bitter..

On SL Stats if you add up the figure for 2009 it comes to around 260000 not the 350000 which is recorded. That means an average for 2009 of around 9600. For 2010, 253000 comes out at an average of 9393 - so little difference.

Also, if the Magic weekend is taken out the avarages for 2009 (8800ish) and 2010 (8750) are very similar. Also, the 14 team league from 2009 means that comparisons with previous years of 12 teams is difficult.

ahhh right thanks for clearing that up so the stats are actually wrong then and someone cant add up

Well our (Hull FC) average attendance went up by about 4% (about 500) IIRC.

Anyone got a table of attendances by club and % change vs last year?

well i think ours went down slightly on last season but expect next season now we signed a certain player it will improve somewhat

You can only hope, do you still need 10k to break even?

Quins RL down 1.6% from 3,436 to 3,380...the lowest average gate for London RL sonce 2001 at the Valley (3,232)

If my sums are correct:

Wigan.....15,723 10.4
Leeds......15,355 -2.7
Hull FC.....13,731 3.7
St Helens..11,191 -2.5
Warrington.10,945 15.8
Bradford....8,436 -14.7
Hull KR......8,234 -3.6
Huddersfield...7,386 -7.1
Catalans.....6,806 -34.6
Castleford...6,616 -13.2
Wakefield....5,983 -0.9
Crusaders...4,616 20.5
Salford......4,166 -7.2
Harlequins...3,379 -1.7

wow thats a big big drop for Catalans

They are renevating their stadium at the moment, and obviously also coupled with a poor season, but i think its more to do with the first issue.

Huddersfield would have been about right, but with the dip in the season, we lost a lot of spectators, and on comparison with previous years, we've steadily improved.

RL is no longer that cheap.

maybe so but i still think its value for money compared to other sports and these days what is cheap

The credit crunch anyone? I think its good that they are not lower than they are.. almost every business sector has been affected by the CC. RL has done well to be largely unaffected by it.

Shows what success does to a team regarding attendances

SL stats are wrong i think

crowd average this year is up a little on last year.

It's the Americans, French and Southerners fault!

Actually down a little, according to official figures. When I say a little it is down 0.56% over the season. Five clubs posted an increase, 9 clubs posted decreases in attendance

They are down for 1 reason and that's because the spetacle isn't as good as it was. With franchising at least I hoped the better teams would throw the ball around and play with some real quality even the lesser teams testing their arms a bit and making SL enjoyable to watch. But it's all about the wrestle and slowing everything down, we are obsessed with the Australian game and trying to do what they do; well why not try be our own competition. Outrule all this wrestling nonsense and holding down, we want a quick game, with players like Eastmond, Tomkins, not 'controlling' the game but running in broken field and using their flair and if it doesn't come off aplaud them for trying not moaning at players for only 'completing at 50%' or 'turning over ball in the red zone' because that's a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching 2 17 stone lads running and tackling each other.

I don't suppose we are playing the 'Australian game' due to the fact there are so many aussies playing here.

playing "her", who is she?

excellent post but you say the spectacle isnt as good as it was.. compared to when? ive been watching OGG since the 70s and compared to then its far more entertaining in my view prop forwards in them days would go out and have 15 pints night before a match would you have us go back to this? players today are toned athletes, and yes i agree with some of what you say im not keen on holding down and laying on at the ptb but if you notice the ones who are good at it are having the most success. there is a lot of aussie influence in the game now prob due to the fact we have more oz players over here than ever some entertaining and some not so.