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| Are there any stipulations about what players can and can’t do away from training/matches? They seem to be all over that in cricket (Archer), Scottish Football (Celtic and Aberdeen) and the NRL (Bennett, Pangai Jnr etc) but I see players in superleague constantly posting about trips to restaurants, bars etc on social media. If they can go wherever, whenever they feel like it away from the game then it’s going to be difficult to stop this from continuing to happen.
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| So that means there’ll be two games off this weekend at the very least. Will the other teams who played on Sunday be tested as well?
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| Quote: Willzay "So that means there’ll be two games off this weekend at the very least. Will the other teams who played on Sunday be tested as well?'"
Everyone is being tested on a regular basis anyway I believe so we’ll see what comes of that. I just can’t see how we avoid these incidents looking at how players are going about daily life. I look at the Archer case in cricket and he was dropped from a test match for simply popping home to his flat in Sussex to pick up some things when driving from Southampton to Manchester. He had no contact with anybody yet was put in to isolation for 5 days. I get they’ve set up an on-site bio secure environment and they can do that because of the money involved and because the series were being played over a short spell but still. I see players from my club living it up in Manchester City centre on a regular basis. If that’s allowed by the game and the clubs fair enough but the risks are huge. One positive test has a huge knock on effect.
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| I think this sadly will have bad consequences for the game, we are a contact sport which already brings bigger risks and the Government will just tell us to stop if we can't guarantee its safe.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Are there any stipulations about what players can and can’t do away from training/matches? They seem to be all over that in cricket (Archer), Scottish Football (Celtic and Aberdeen) and the NRL (Bennett, Pangai Jnr etc) but I see players in superleague constantly posting about trips to restaurants, bars etc on social media. If they can go wherever, whenever they feel like it away from the game then it’s going to be difficult to stop this from continuing to happen.'"
Indeed, so far I’ve seen Blake Austin think it acceptable to mix with thousands outside of Anfield, Jackson Hastings put his weekly p*ss up all over instagram, Brad Dwyer similar and clearly some idiot at Hull FC has broken social distancing guidelines as well. Idiotic and selfish, I’m sure there are plenty of other examples as well. Until the RFL (and clubs themselves) take a tougher stance and issue fines to players at fault then there’ll be plenty more positive tests. I’d go as far as to say Hull should be fined for the postponements that will have to follow. How hard can it be for players to behave for three months and clubs to keep them under control?
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| Quote: UllFC "I think this sadly will have bad consequences for the game, we are a contact sport which already brings bigger risks and the Government will just tell us to stop if we can't guarantee its safe.'"
There’s been no issues in the NRL where they are far stricter. It’s really not difficult to set out a clear list of things players can and can’t do between now and the end of the season and for players to take notice. It’s no wonder there’s been positive tests when players are daft enough to not only go to bars/pubs but then plaster them all over their social media. It’d be interesting to see if any clubs have set out any rules because it’s clear there are quite a few that haven’t.
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| Quote: MPhil12 "Indeed, so far I’ve seen Blake Austin think it acceptable to mix with thousands outside of Anfield, Jackson Hastings put his weekly p*ss up all over instagram, Brad Dwyer similar and clearly some idiot at Hull FC has broken social distancing guidelines as well. Idiotic and selfish, I’m sure there are plenty of other examples as well. Until the RFL (and clubs themselves) take a tougher stance and issue fines to players at fault then there’ll be plenty more positive tests. I’d go as far as to say Hull should be fined for the postponements that will have to follow. How hard can it be for players to behave for three months and clubs to keep them under control?'"
Austin clearly broke the governments rules but yet still doesn’t seem to have been massively punished. Compare that to talk of Pangai Jnr being sacked for a trip to the barbers in a country with a far better record with this virus. It’s little wonder this has already hit us.
On the flip side with guys like Hastings, Hardaker and Hankinson from Wigan, I saw them post last night that they were out in Manchester but the pictures were of them sat outside. Even with the tougher measures in Greater Manchester, I believe you can sit outside bars in groups of six or less? The players will say they’re therefore doing nothing wrong but it’s still hugely risky and irresponsible IMO. The game is on the edge and it’s their own livelihoods they’re risking.
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| Agree that the players should be staying home, its their career and the sport is at risk so a few months sacrifice shouldent be a hardship for them.
However its judgemental to just assume players went to the pub and caught it. Super League announced on Friday that all tests were negative, it seems symtoms show 2-14 days after infection, so it could be the players had it but the test missed it or they only had it at low levels. They could have caught it on game day, on the coach, at the supermarket on their way home, or pretty much anywhere...we wont ever know.
Surely our game gets called off this weekend, from a competitioj point of view we are 6 players down, from a health point of view if I was a Cas player or ref I wouldent want to be anywhere near the FC squad!
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Austin clearly broke the governments rules but yet still doesn’t seem to have been massively punished. Compare that to talk of Pangai Jnr being sacked for a trip to the barbers in a country with a far better record with this virus. It’s little wonder this has already hit us.
On the flip side with guys like Hastings, Hardaker and Hankinson from Wigan, I saw them post last night that they were out in Manchester but the pictures were of them sat outside. Even with the tougher measures in Greater Manchester, I believe you can sit outside bars in groups of six or less? The players will say they’re therefore doing nothing wrong but it’s still hugely risky and irresponsible IMO. The game is on the edge and it’s their own livelihoods they’re risking.'"
Agree, the past 5 or so months of uncertainty must have been really difficult for the players. Why any of them would want to further jeapordise their futures with unnecessary social gatherings just baffles me and the RFLs lack of a tough stance is just infuriating when you look at the strictness of just about every other sport and competition. The sooner this season is over the better.
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Interestingly the city of hull has very low levels of covid so i think the chances of the players catching it there will have been very low.
Good point, you are correct Hull has very low levels, even Corona doesnt want to visit us
We do have a large West Yorkshire contingent at the club who travel in, unsure if they still car share or not in the crisis.
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| Quote: UllFC "Agree that the players should be staying home, its their career and the sport is at risk so a few months sacrifice shouldent be a hardship for them.
However its judgemental to just assume players went to the pub and caught it. Super League announced on Friday that all tests were negative, it seems symtoms show 2-14 days after infection, so it could be the players had it but the test missed it or they only had it at low levels. They could have caught it on game day, on the coach, at the supermarket on their way home, or pretty much anywhere...we wont ever know.
Surely our game gets called off this weekend, from a competitioj point of view we are 6 players down, from a health point of view if I was a Cas player or ref I wouldent want to be anywhere near the FC squad!'"
Surely the games of the teams who played after Hull Fc will need to be postponed as well given they will have used the same changing rooms? The main reason why playing all games at the same stadium for each round is absolutely ludicrous.
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| Quote: MPhil12 "Surely the games of the teams who played after Hull Fc will need to be postponed as well given they will have used the same changing rooms? The main reason why playing all games at the same stadium for each round is absolutely ludicrous.'"
I think Headingley's multiple dressing rooms where used, but not 100%, but you are right the all games at venue idea may need a rethink. Had this game been at the KCOM or AJ Bell it would only be Hull and Salford theyd need to isoltate and worry about.
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| Hull FC and Salford used the main RL changing rooms, which were extensively cleaned whilst the Wakefield v Wigan game was on. Wakefield and Wigan used the south stand changing rooms. Leeds and St Helens then used the main changing rooms.
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