FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Brian Noble
50 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1374No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 20186 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2022Oct 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Am ya papi:



Mutually agreed with Toronto to be released from the remainder of his contract.
No reason given.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member749No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Mar 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3122.jpg
:3122.jpg



I’d say the reasons were pretty clear.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8675
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
14002_1637716780.jpg
"I know you've had a bad day, but there's no need to take it out on me":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14002.jpg



Maybe it's handing out silly contracts to average players, or handing out silly contracts to average players ! icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2215No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20195 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2020Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Budgiezilla "Maybe it's handing out silly contracts to average players, or handing out silly contracts to average players ! Nòooooooooo, it's handing out ludicrous contracts to way past their best well below average has beens.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9058
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23603_1336678755.jpg
"Look, I'd never use injuries as an excuse..." Daryl Powell:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23603.jpg



https://www.torontowolfpack.com/toronto ... part-ways/

Wonder what his new rugby challenge is. Bradford?
https://www.torontowolfpack.com/toronto ... part-ways/

Wonder what his new rugby challenge is. Bradford?


RankPostsTeam
International Star11854No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
White Backgrounds/Statler.gif
:White Backgrounds/Statler.gif



Maybe it’s the lack of developed players in the player development aspect of his role.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2167No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 20186 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2022Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I have never believed in Toronto as a concept. You simply cannot start a pro team in any sport without a domestic/junior comp to back it up. That is why Catalan worked and Paris didn’t. That’s why Sheffield limp on, not because they are great but because they are close enough to the action to benefit from the scraps. Ditto London who operate in the worlds most diverse and cosmopolitan city.

Toronto is in world terms a relative backwater. It has its own sports but more importantly it sits on the border of the USA, do I really need to say more!

It’s a million miles away from the two centres of RL. In fact if you were to go out and pick the most unlikely city in the world for RL to thrive in, Toronto would be up there.

At least most of the other places we’ve tried and failed in have at least had a RU set up that we could borrow off. Toronto doesn’t even have that, even RU struggles in Canada. Though it’s a positive giant compared to the Wolfpack, in at least it has an amateur competition.

So much money wasted that could have gone elsewhere rather than SBW bank account. Another RL tragedy in the making I’m afraid.

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player214No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Fishermanscap "I have never believed in Toronto as a concept. You simply cannot start a pro team in any sport without a domestic/junior comp to back it up. That is why Catalan worked and Paris didn’t. That’s why Sheffield limp on, not because they are great but because they are close enough to the action to benefit from the scraps. Ditto London who operate in the worlds most diverse and cosmopolitan city.

Toronto is in world terms a relative backwater. It has its own sports but more importantly it sits on the border of the USA, do I really need to say more!

It’s a million miles away from the two centres of RL. In fact if you were to go out and pick the most unlikely city in the world for RL to thrive in, Toronto would be up there.

At least most of the other places we’ve tried and failed in have at least had a RU set up that we could borrow off. Toronto doesn’t even have that, even RU struggles in Canada. Though it’s a positive giant compared to the Wolfpack, in at least it has an amateur competition.

So much money wasted that could have gone elsewhere rather than SBW bank account. Another RL tragedy in the making I’m afraid.'"
well said sir

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14845No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
143_1357419061.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_143.jpg



Isn’t the Toronto backer thinking of buying a half share in Melbourne Storm? Could that have a bearing?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1256No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Dally "Isn’t the Toronto backer thinking of buying a half share in Melbourne Storm? Could that have a bearing?'"


No. He might end up with 15%.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1331No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



The games descending into farce and it can only get worse. The RFL need to make Toronto exempt from relegation if they truly believe this out of control club with no TV deal, youth setup and no home grown players are really the future of the game.

They could change the salary cap or increase marque players to five to get around the current problem of how they avoid going down just allow Argyle to buy whoever he wants.

The same with Guasch there’s loads more NRL players likely to be banned from the competition let’s let them play for the other team with no TV deal and having failed in its effort to create a competitive international side in France.

From the early season positive story of SBW ( not my point of view) the whole thing has descended into a farce at club level and where if England play Australia in the World Cup final a fair bit more than half of the players on view will be Australian. Australia A v Australia B ??

When Saracens the darlings of English RU are going to be relegated for breaking the salary cap by finding ways to pay players top dollar in their pocket but not through the books we have a star international rugby league player playing on trial for ‘nothing’ but his respect for the magnificent Wolfpack if you believe that you’ll believe anything.

Rugby League is heading fast into the Abyss on the back of over playing it’s hand... two years before a World Cup that should raise the game back into the public profile it’s in danger of destroying itself to promote an expansion that will never work.

Just keep the whinging Mc’s Dermot and Namara off TV please as they bring the game into disrepute every time they question all the unfairness against them brought on by no one but themselves.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14845No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
143_1357419061.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_143.jpg



I agree (I think) that if the game believes Toronto are essential / good for the British game then they need to be exempt from the salary cap, etc. Otherwise, it’ll inevitably flop and be yet another waste.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain741No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Nov 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Fishermanscap "I have never believed in Toronto as a concept. You simply cannot start a pro team in any sport without a domestic/junior comp to back it up. That is why Catalan worked and Paris didn’t. That’s why Sheffield limp on, not because they are great but because they are close enough to the action to benefit from the scraps. Ditto London who operate in the worlds most diverse and cosmopolitan city.

Toronto is in world terms a relative backwater. It has its own sports but more importantly it sits on the border of the USA, do I really need to say more!

It’s a million miles away from the two centres of RL. In fact if you were to go out and pick the most unlikely city in the world for RL to thrive in, Toronto would be up there.

At least most of the other places we’ve tried and failed in have at least had a RU set up that we could borrow off. Toronto doesn’t even have that, even RU struggles in Canada. Though it’s a positive giant compared to the Wolfpack, in at least it has an amateur competition.

So much money wasted that could have gone elsewhere rather than SBW bank account. Another RL tragedy in the making I’m afraid.'"


Melbourne Storm say hi

Yes I know they have junior sides and programmes for the sport in Victoria but still 20 years later very few Victorians have made it through.

It's not as quick fix but nobody can deny the Storm are good for the NRL.

You see the difference is the NRL didn't want the Storm to fail.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2534No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 20195 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2022Feb 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Fishermanscap "I have never believed in Toronto as a concept. You simply cannot start a pro team in any sport without a domestic/junior comp to back it up. Toronto is in world terms a relative backwater. It has its own sports but more importantly it sits on the border of the USA, do I really need to say more!

It’s a million miles away from the two centres of RL. In fact if you were to go out and pick the most unlikely city in the world for RL to thrive in, Toronto would be up there. So much money wasted that could have gone elsewhere rather than SBW bank account. Another RL tragedy in the making I’m afraid.'"


On wednesday last Martyn Sadler opined from his editorial position of Total RL .com that [i"It is clearly in the interests of rugby league as a whole Toronto Wolfpack are successful to the point at which they create a significant market for rugby league in North America.[/i But from the point of view of the other eleven Superleague clubs the Wolfpack are seen as a [ithreat to their future".[/i

That was the wisdom handed down from the great man himself, but I am a loss to understand what on earth he means? Is this Success"point at which they create a significant market for Rugby League"[/i again is this 50,000 Canadian RL fans, is this Canadian TV companies signing multi-million deals?

Or is it when half of Superleague contains Canadian and American clubs and the English clubs they replace are down in the championship?

The business plan is in it's fourth year with the club itself admitting they haven't come up with the players or the TV money, admitting that importing players is a massive expense, and neither New York nor Ottawa have made any attempt to even put a toe in the calm waters of Championship one. On what basis does he believe English Superleague clubs are quaking in their boots? The man has a whole website to explain it, he has a whole Newspaper to set it out, but not once have I seen him articulate the complete business plan or define "success" or explain his vision.

Same for Danny Lockwood - all those pages to fill but he never gets past a sentence declaring how important Toronto Wolfpack are, and how horrible Superleague clubs are. I would not mind had actual Canadians in numbers come together to build a professional Rugby game in Canada........... Oh hang on they have, they've a network of junior and senior clubs and Toronto Arrows are now in the MLR...... only problem is this is union NOT league?

However if the "significant market" was achieved in Canada, and the frit and backward English Pro RL clubs fought off their fears, stood down their own pro-ambitions and released their playing roster to emigrate to Canada for the good of Rugby League as a professional game how would that be "success"?

This week RL & League Express was 36 A4 pages and approximately 40,000 words, it's this big every week, same in League weekly, every year what 80 million words are churned out , enough volume for these editors to actually use some of these words for once to explain to the likes of you and me how we are wrong? and why we don't get it?

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player510No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Fishermanscap "I have never believed in Toronto as a concept. You simply cannot start a pro team in any sport without a domestic/junior comp to back it up. That is why Catalan worked and Paris didn’t. That’s why Sheffield limp on, not because they are great but because they are close enough to the action to benefit from the scraps. Ditto London who operate in the worlds most diverse and cosmopolitan city.

Toronto is in world terms a relative backwater. It has its own sports but more importantly it sits on the border of the USA, do I really need to say more!

It’s a million miles away from the two centres of RL. In fact if you were to go out and pick the most unlikely city in the world for RL to thrive in, Toronto would be up there.

At least most of the other places we’ve tried and failed in have at least had a RU set up that we could borrow off. Toronto doesn’t even have that, even RU struggles in Canada. Though it’s a positive giant compared to the Wolfpack, in at least it has an amateur competition.

So much money wasted that could have gone elsewhere rather than SBW bank account. Another RL tragedy in the making I’m afraid.'"

How else do you suppose rugby league reach new audiences, fans and sponsors when you consider that the rfl aren't particularly flush with money and Toronto isn't costing the game a cent?

Hopefully the game's powerbrokers don't squander the opportunity presented and Argyle can keep funding against the odds.

50 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
50 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.32275390625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Tom Johnstone
Wollo-Wollo-
41
30m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
2905
Recent
Reserves v London
GP1
4
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
15s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
2905
25s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1820
36s
Super League form rewarded as Wane names squad to travel to Toulouse
MattyB
39
41s
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
59989
42s
Olly Russell 4 year deal
PopTart
26
43s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hasbag
2240
1m
Catalan Away
Irregs#16
1
1m
Reserves v London
GP1
4
1m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
37803
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
bonaire
1988
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Catalan Away
Irregs#16
1
TODAY
Englands Youngsters Beat France With Ease Despite Early Scare
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves v London
GP1
4
TODAY
Big Win for England Women Over France in Toulouse
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Dewsbury away
Bull Mania
7
TODAY
Olly Russell 4 year deal
PopTart
26
TODAY
SuperLeague Plus Fixtures
karetaker
3
TODAY
A good signing for the Robins
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
International
Wires71
18
TODAY
Halifax v Whitehaven
faxcar
9
TODAY
Jayden Okunbor
bonaire
42
TODAY
Kevin Sinfield event
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Red Devils appoint development manager in Ghana
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Leopards sign Newcastle Knights full back
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 Contains Spoilers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
David Armstrong For 2025
J7P1
21
TODAY
New Structure for 2025 Challenge Cup
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
171
Big Win for England Women Over..
183
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
504
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
620
Super League form rewarded as ..
876
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
845
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
725
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
784
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1061
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1266
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1249
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1457
Hull FC Get Second Win By Beat..
1166
Super Salford First Half Slays..
1356
England to play Samoa in autum..
1394
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M 2,318 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R17
05:00
St.George
v
Dolphins
07:05
Penrith
v
NQL Cowboys
09:15
Sydney
v
Wests
       League One 2024-R13
13:00
Cornwall
v
Crusaders
       Championship 2024-R13
15:00
Barrow
v
Wakefield
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Bradford
15:00
Halifax
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
Batley
15:00
York
v
Sheffield
       League One 2024-R13
15:00
Newcastle
v
Midlands
15:00
Oldham
v
Hunslet
15:00
Workington
v
Keighley
 Wed 17th Jul
     State of Origin 2023-R3
11:05
Queensland
v
New South Wales
 Sat 17th Aug 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
13:00
Hull FC
v
LondonB
15:30
Wigan
v
St.Helens
18:00
Warrington
v
Leeds
 Sun 18th Aug 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
13:00
Leigh
v
Salford
15:30
Catalans
v
Hull KR
18:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 29th Jun
CH 13 Toulouse20-0Featherstone
CH 13 Doncaster18-8Swinton
NRL 17 NZ Warriors32-16Brisbane
NRL 17 Newcastle34-26Parramatta
NRL 17 Melbourne16-6Canberra
MINT2024 1 France M8-40England M
WINT2024 1 FRANCE W0-42ENGLAND W
Fri 28th Jun
NRL 17 Canterbury15-14Cronulla
Sun 23rd Jun
SL 15 Salford20-18St.Helens
CH 12 Bradford38-4Doncaster
CH 12 Featherstone24-34York
CH 12 Sheffield30-21Widnes
CH 12 Swinton10-24Barrow
CH 12 Wakefield46-24Halifax
CH 12 Whitehaven38-12Dewsbury
L1 12 Cornwall0-26Keighley
L1 12 Hunslet18-48Rochdale
L1 12 Newcastle4-42Crusaders
L1 12 Workington4-28Oldham
NRL 16 Wests48-24Canberra
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 14 403 164 239 24
St.Helens 15 423 162 261 22
Hull KR 15 383 201 182 22
Warrington 15 358 213 145 20
Salford 15 295 288 7 20
Catalans 15 288 220 68 18
 
Leeds 15 274 270 4 16
Huddersfield 15 298 317 -19 12
Leigh 14 264 226 38 11
Castleford 15 238 429 -191 7
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
LondonB 15 140 598 -458 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 12 450 142 308 24
Sheffield 12 336 207 129 18
Toulouse 12 332 174 158 16
Bradford 12 303 206 97 16
Widnes 12 299 221 78 15
Featherstone 13 330 283 47 12
 
Doncaster 13 237 325 -88 11
York 13 275 275 0 10
Whitehaven 12 248 320 -72 10
Batley 12 181 270 -89 10
Barrow 11 203 303 -100 10
Swinton 13 260 332 -72 8
Halifax 12 232 359 -127 8
Dewsbury 13 156 381 -225 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Tom Johnstone
Wollo-Wollo-
41
30m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
2905
Recent
Reserves v London
GP1
4
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
15s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
2905
25s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1820
36s
Super League form rewarded as Wane names squad to travel to Toulouse
MattyB
39
41s
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
59989
42s
Olly Russell 4 year deal
PopTart
26
43s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hasbag
2240
1m
Catalan Away
Irregs#16
1
1m
Reserves v London
GP1
4
1m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
37803
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
bonaire
1988
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Catalan Away
Irregs#16
1
TODAY
Englands Youngsters Beat France With Ease Despite Early Scare
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves v London
GP1
4
TODAY
Big Win for England Women Over France in Toulouse
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Dewsbury away
Bull Mania
7
TODAY
Olly Russell 4 year deal
PopTart
26
TODAY
SuperLeague Plus Fixtures
karetaker
3
TODAY
A good signing for the Robins
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
International
Wires71
18
TODAY
Halifax v Whitehaven
faxcar
9
TODAY
Jayden Okunbor
bonaire
42
TODAY
Kevin Sinfield event
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Red Devils appoint development manager in Ghana
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Leopards sign Newcastle Knights full back
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 Contains Spoilers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
David Armstrong For 2025
J7P1
21
TODAY
New Structure for 2025 Challenge Cup
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
171
Big Win for England Women Over..
183
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
504
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
620
Super League form rewarded as ..
876
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
845
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
725
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
784
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1061
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1266
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1249
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1457
Hull FC Get Second Win By Beat..
1166
Super Salford First Half Slays..
1356
England to play Samoa in autum..
1394


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!