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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



London by the odd score.....Leeds have been terrible all season and if london can get quick PTB's and Mr Kendall hasn't read the RFL Memo about "keeping leeds up at all costs" then I see this as a game where the winner will avoid the MPG and go straight into SL....BUT......If it is reffed like the last Leeds game then I see Leeds winning by a country mile.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Call Me God "London by the odd score.....Leeds have been terrible all season and if london can get quick PTB's and Mr Kendall hasn't read the RFL Memo about "keeping leeds up at all costs" then I see this as a game where the winner will avoid the MPG and go straight into SL....BUT......If it is reffed like the last Leeds game then I see Leeds winning by a country mile.

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I think this will be your best ever chance of beating Leeds I’m not sure what would be the best result personally for my side as we have Leeds next

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: fun time frankie "I think this will be your best ever chance of beating Leeds I’m not sure what would be the best result personally for my side as we have Leeds next'"


I expect Leeds and HKR to finish in the top 3.......leeds losing to us icon_razz.gifRAY: would only be a blip for them, but a massive step fr London (and UK based RL in general).....our kids are starting to come through and player development in the capital is better than at some heartland clubs.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



Quote: Call Me God "I expect Leeds and HKR to finish in the top 3.......leeds losing to us



I remember reading somewhere a few years back that there are more junior teams in the London area than the whole of the northern heartlands

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Quote: Call Me God "I expect Leeds and HKR to finish in the top 3.......leeds losing to us
You've probably answered this before but would you want London to be promoted?

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Quote: Call Me God "London by the odd score.....Leeds have been terrible all season and if london can get quick PTB's and Mr Kendall hasn't read the RFL Memo about "keeping leeds up at all costs" then I see this as a game where the winner will avoid the MPG and go straight into SL....BUT......If it is reffed like the last Leeds game then I see Leeds winning by a country mile.

2,800 gate, 22-18 to London
Already getting the poor ref excuse in just in case. Classy.

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I think Salford look a good bet for top 3 now. Specially as they have the 4 championship sides still to play.

Then it could be any of the rest. I fancy Leeds as they have the home games vs Toronto, Salford and Hull KR.

After that who knows. Would love London to come back up but we will see.

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Being the best team out of the 8, Leeds do not need and do not get help from officials. It's all in your head.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: jakeyg95 "You've probably answered this before but would you want London to be promoted?'"

Not under the current owner, no.
Quote: jakeyg95 "Already getting the poor ref excuse in just in case. Classy.'"

Why would I need an excuse? the 2017 SL champions v little old London....should be a hammering, but Leeds needed plenty of assistance from the man in the middle last week v Toulouse......SL couldn't afford to lose 15k fans every fortnight....

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Quote: Nothus "Already getting the poor ref excuse in just in case. Classy.'"

The Rfl conspiracy theory will be rolled out evertime leeds play, and get a 50/50 go there way. Its pathletic.

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Quote: Call Me God "Not under the current owner, no.
Why would I need an excuse? the 2017 SL champions v little old London....should be a hammering, but Leeds needed plenty of assistance from the man in the middle last week v Toulouse......SL couldn't afford to lose 15k fans every fortnight....'"

They Only needed plenty of assistance in your deluded anti leeds world

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: rollin thunder "They Only needed plenty of assistance in your deluded anti leeds world'"

I'm not anti Leeds....... But your new director of rugby could and should have been employed as director of referees by the RFL...... You always get the 50/50 calls

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Quote: Call Me God "I'm not anti Leeds....... But your new director of rugby could and should have been employed as director of referees by the RFL...... You always get the 50/50 calls'"


If that were true we wouldn’t even be in the Middle 8’s. Whenever someone says “big clubs get all the decisions” all they achieve in doing is making themselves look either daft or bitter.

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Quote: ThePrinter "If that were true we wouldn’t even be in the Middle 8’s. Whenever someone says “big clubs get all the decisions” all they achieve in doing is making themselves look either daft or bitter.'"


It’d be interesting to get the honest opinions of players who spent parts of their careers at bigger and smaller clubs.

I don’t want McGuire to speak to refs like he did at Leeds now he’s with us. To do otherwise would be daft and naive, imo. Peacock’s incredulity at Hicks awarding an iffy and crucial drop goal to Hudds a couple of years ago felt like it reflected on his previous experience with dominant teams as much as the decision itself.
Fair enough, he suffered Chris Joynt’s voluntary tackle, but that was against St Helens.

Alex Ferguson pretty much acknowledged he used his own and Manchester United’s pre-eminence to influence refs. There’s no grand conspiracy, but refs are human and humans are suggestible.

I’m sure Hull KR got their share back in the 1980s.

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Mild Rover "It’d be interesting to get the honest opinions of players who spent parts of their careers at bigger and smaller clubs.

I don’t want McGuire to speak to refs like he did at Leeds now he’s with us. To do otherwise would be daft and naive, imo. Peacock’s incredulity at Hicks awarding an iffy and crucial drop goal to Hudds a couple of years ago felt like it reflected on his previous experience with dominant teams as much as the decision itself.
Fair enough, he suffered Chris Joynt’s voluntary tackle, but that was against St Helens.

Alex Ferguson pretty much acknowledged he used his own and Manchester United’s pre-eminence to influence refs. There’s no grand conspiracy, but refs are human and humans are suggestible.

I’m sure Hull KR got their share back in the 1980s.'"


Every team has players who get in the refs face and speak out of turn, again it’s one of those things were to some only the likes of Leeds and Wigan players do it when it’s every team in reality.

That a reaction that Peacock had in a HKR shirt can still be blamed at Leeds’s door show the predetermined mindset when it comes to a Leeds or a Wigan when it comes to decisions/penalties/behaviour.

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