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| I don't think many could negotiate a 50% pay increase on the back of that record.
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| It's not a vote of no confidence, though, is it?
Aside from the fact that his salary is none of our business.
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| The player participation stat, if true, is damning.
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| The Wembley attendance figures are misleading. In 2007 the attendance was over 84,000 because Catalans was playing. Since then Catalans has not made Wembley and so there is less interest in the matches.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Wembley attendance figures are misleading. In 2007 the attendance was over 84,000 because Catalans was playing. Since then Catalans has not made Wembley and so there is less interest in the matches.'"
So it's Catalans fault is it?
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "I don't think many could negotiate a 50% pay increase on the back of that record.'"
I have not checked this recently, but didn't Wood's pay go from £252k to £314k? An increase of circa 20%?
The servay is a result of jealousy based on pay. Pure and simple.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The servay is a result of jealousy based on pay. Pure and simple.'"
I think that's simplistic. As stakeholders in a sport that appears to be, at best, standing still, I think it's reasonable for people to have a view on how the man responsible for the health and welfare of the game is performing. Perhaps basing it around his salary is an error - but his stewardship of the game is certainly subject to scrutiny.
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| Quote: bren2k "I think that's simplistic. As stakeholders in a sport that appears to be, at best, standing still, I think it's reasonable for people to have a view on how the man responsible for the health and welfare of the game is performing. Perhaps basing it around his salary is an error - but his stewardship of the game is certainly subject to scrutiny.'"
It is simplistic and if pressed I be very much in the "lets have a new man in charge camp", but would this petition have been start d if it had not been for the releasing of salary details?
It's not that difficult to find out the highest paid directors salary, you can get that from the financial statements, hence, I knew his pay was circa £252k in th previous year.
The game is going backwards, there is no doubt. I have looked at some of the comments on that petition, some are reasonable but some are just petty minded and a couple are plain insulting. Is that the really going to be taken seriously?
Personally I think the position of CEO has a live span of approx 5 years. Beyond that, if there is not progress then it's time for change AS familiarity breeds Contempt.
The creator of the petition no doubt has the best interest at heart. It's timing, shortly after Wood's salary was published is poor and will be pointed to question its credibility.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Wembley attendance figures are misleading. In 2007 the attendance was over 84,000 because Catalans was playing. Since then Catalans has not made Wembley and so there is less interest in the matches.'"
You Sir are Nuts and it is time you got on your Bike and left the country
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| Quote: "It's timing, shortly after Wood's salary was published is poor and will be pointed to question its credibility.'"
Granted, but there has to be a correlation between the two. Hence why I think there should be an agreed strategy with KPI's to measure his performance against. if not it ends up where we are today. Subjective and personal.
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| Quote: wire-quin "Granted, but there has to be a correlation between the two. Hence why I think there should be an agreed strategy with KPI's to measure his performance against. if not it ends up where we are today. Subjective and personal.'"
Absolutely...
What is the long term plan for the game? Does anybody know?
Is expansion a direction the game is wanting to head in? If so, do we know why? What areas are we targetting? What are the long term plans to get there? What are we doing at grass roots level to build the infratructure a professional club requires to build from?
What is the plan with regards attendances? Are we looking to improve attendances at grounds? Or are we more focussed on the commerial aspect of TV audiances? Whichever it is, what is the long term aim? What are the goals? What plans are in place to get there? Or is it both (which I'd guess it is)? If so, how are we going to manage to directly conflicting goals, and again, what are the short term/long term plans and goals?
It feels very much that we just plod along in the 'here and now' with no long term thinking or strategy. We just protect what we've got currently and fire fight the various issues that come along (clubs struggling financially, trends in the game, the NRL moving light years ahead, inability to attract top players). That's not a way to make any business thrive. We need a visionary - someone who can see past the current issues and look at the long term future of the game. We shouldn't worry too much about the NRL's massive salary cap and losing talent right now, we should focus on how we make the game over here the absolute best it can be - if we do that, we'll start attracting more money into the game and many of our currrent issues will then be resolved.
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| Correct me if I'm wrong, but in 17 years we've only had TWO people running the RFL. If that doesn't explain how stagnant the sport has become, I don't know what will!
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| Quote: wire-quin "Granted, but there has to be a correlation between the two. Hence why I think there should be an agreed strategy with KPI's to measure his performance against. if not it ends up where we are today. Subjective and personal.'"
I don't think there should be any correlation between a roles pay and performance, the pay is the rate it demands whether that's 30k or 300k and that role should be fulfilled to a set of given parameters.
Once you get into correlation of pay vs role you get into the whole rubbish of comparing nurses job to any high paid job CEO / sportsman etc.
Pay is and always has been dictated by two things, can anyone else do what you do and how much cash do you generate for your given company.
If the RFL is making a profit and seeing growth then the argument for no confidence will be seriously flawed.
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Quote: Superted "Absolutely...
What is the long term plan for the game? Does anybody know?
Is expansion a direction the game is wanting to head in? If so, do we know why? What areas are we targetting? What are the long term plans to get there? What are we doing at grass roots level to build the infratructure a professional club requires to build from?
What is the plan with regards attendances? Are we looking to improve attendances at grounds? Or are we more focussed on the commerial aspect of TV audiances? Whichever it is, what is the long term aim? What are the goals? What plans are in place to get there? Or is it both (which I'd guess it is)? If so, how are we going to manage to directly conflicting goals, and again, what are the short term/long term plans and goals?
It feels very much that we just plod along in the 'here and now' with no long term thinking or strategy. We just protect what we've got currently and fire fight the various issues that come along (clubs struggling financially, trends in the game, the NRL moving light years ahead, inability to attract top players). That's not a way to make any business thrive. We need a visionary - someone who can see past the current issues and look at the long term future of the game. We shouldn't worry too much about the NRL's massive salary cap and losing talent right now, we should focus on how we make the game over here the absolute best it can be - if we do that, we'll start attracting more money into the game and many of our currrent issues will then be resolved.'"
If anyone wants to understand the RFL's strategy and objectives, its all here
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/RFL-Rugb ... 4-2021.pdf
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Quote: Superted "Absolutely...
What is the long term plan for the game? Does anybody know?
Is expansion a direction the game is wanting to head in? If so, do we know why? What areas are we targetting? What are the long term plans to get there? What are we doing at grass roots level to build the infratructure a professional club requires to build from?
What is the plan with regards attendances? Are we looking to improve attendances at grounds? Or are we more focussed on the commerial aspect of TV audiances? Whichever it is, what is the long term aim? What are the goals? What plans are in place to get there? Or is it both (which I'd guess it is)? If so, how are we going to manage to directly conflicting goals, and again, what are the short term/long term plans and goals?
It feels very much that we just plod along in the 'here and now' with no long term thinking or strategy. We just protect what we've got currently and fire fight the various issues that come along (clubs struggling financially, trends in the game, the NRL moving light years ahead, inability to attract top players). That's not a way to make any business thrive. We need a visionary - someone who can see past the current issues and look at the long term future of the game. We shouldn't worry too much about the NRL's massive salary cap and losing talent right now, we should focus on how we make the game over here the absolute best it can be - if we do that, we'll start attracting more money into the game and many of our currrent issues will then be resolved.'"
If anyone wants to understand the RFL's strategy and objectives, its all here
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/RFL-Rugb ... 4-2021.pdf
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