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Think it will be tight, both teams 2-3 tries each. Think keeping that Kiwi pack quiet so Johnson can't play will be the key for beating them, winning the tackle so Hodgeson gets room will win it for us.

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NZ didn't look too hot when they played Australia, albeit in a friendly.
I think England's forwards will be too strong for them and we will win comfortably, but only in the final 20 minutes.
I'm going for 12-10 after 60 minutes, but 24-10 at full-time.
Man of the match - Daryl Clark (as he will be the one to take advantage of their beaten forwards).

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Kiwis by 10 +
Packs cancel each other out.
Kiwis backs too fast and strong.

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England by a couple of scores. Tight for 60, with our pack being too strong and taking the game in the final quarter

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Kevin Sinfield just dropped a clanger...

Kallum Watkins, arguably the second best centre in the world behind Inglis.

Hahahaha, not even in the top 10!

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What the feck was that penalty for? He was square at marker.

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The Aussie video ref doesn't even know the names of the England players. FFS.

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Quote: Him "What the feck was that penalty for? He was square at marker.'"

BS call

And from all the pressure they core in the corner.

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Flattest English performance in years. Why bring both the Burgess twins on? They are ponderous and nowhere near international standard. Game changed when they came on.

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At half time it looks like the normal story. We're competing in the forwards, but our halves and centres are not threatening compared to the kiwis and Aussies.

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Quote: moxi1 "Kevin Sinfield just dropped a clanger...

Kallum Watkins, arguably the second best centre in the world behind Inglis.

Hahahaha, not even in the top 10!'"

Yes, most of England's near misses were when he missed the chances! Hardly world class!

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Quote: moxi1 "Kevin Sinfield just dropped a clanger...

Kallum Watkins, arguably the second best centre in the world behind Inglis.

Hahahaha, not even in the top 10!'"

Yes, most of England's near misses were when he missed the chances! Hardly world class!

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I think we are missing a bit of fire. We had a spell in the first half when we were well on top. NZ started lying on and really slowing the PTB down. What annoyed me is the tackled England player time and time again wasn't making the effort to get up quickly which would have forced the ref into making a decision. They just lyed on the floor waiting for the tackler to get off.

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This is a truly awful England display at present. No aggression, no execution, slow and ponderous.

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As I posted the other day - is Widdop really the best we have? If so, we may as well suspend test matches until he has retired.

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