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| It says in the article it will only apply to home grown players?
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| Quote: "As the proposal currently stands, each club will be able to pay a home-grown marquee more than £200,000 ($387,000), which won't count as part of its salary cap. Alternatively, clubs can spend as much as they want to recruit a bona fide superstar, with only £200,000 counting on the cap.'"
Doesn't this suggest players from anywhere?
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| judging by Simon Moran's comment, it will only be one player per team....Either a home grown player who is paid more than £200k would not count on the cap at all or an overseas player who is paid more than £200k would only count as £200k on the cap....
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| Shouldn't far less of a home grown player's salary count on the cap? Otherwise where is the incentive to develop your own talent if the exemption is exactly the same for an overseas recruit?
Editentire[/i salary off the cap? Or just anything over £200k?
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| Quote: Nothus "Shouldn't far less of a home grown player's salary count on the cap? Otherwise where is the incentive to develop your own talent if the exemption is exactly the same for an overseas recruit?
Editentire[/i salary off the cap? Or just anything over £200k?'"
I think it's the same as the overseas one where it's over £200k that isn't counted.
To be fair I don't think the aim of this measure is specifically to encourage producing home grown players but to try and keep hold of the ones we've got.
Maybe if this had been place a few years ago then the likes of Eastmond, Joel & Sam Tomkins might not have left SL in the first place.
Some still will, in some cases the wages on offer from the NRL/Union will still be too high to compete with & in some cases players will still fancy the challenge of something different. But it gives us the opportunity to compete.
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| Still nice to play in Australia with the beaches and Sun.
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| Quote: Nothus "Editentire[/i salary off the cap? Or just anything over £200k?'"
Yep.
Homegrown player who is paid over £200k = £0 on the cap
Overseas player who is paid over £200k = £200k on the cap.
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| This is where there will be accusations about clubs and individuals doing naughty things. For example a club decides to pay a home grown superstar £12m per season. He then decides completely of his own volition to invest money in a new company. A company owned by a partnership featuring 24 players that coincidentally play for that same side.
Provided they arranged it in conjunction with HMRC so it was okay from a tax perspective, how could the RFL/SL do anything?
I'd love to know how far the salary cap checking actually goes. Is it just audit of the club as a company, so wouldn't pick up third party payments from owner's company to the player? Or do they require proof of all assets involving the player? Seems to me the cap is just a trust based arrangement and that any owner that wanted to pay beyond the cap could quite easily do so.
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| Its probably about keeping talented British players in Super League rather than attracting has been and never was players from the NRL, or i would hope so.
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| Quote: Huddersfield1895 "Its probably about keeping talented British players in Super League rather than attracting has been and never was players from the NRL, or i would hope so.'"
Not a cat in hells chance!
There's talk of the perennial crock called Kurt Gidley being SL standard and the sad part is that clubs here are considering signing him
You at leastsee the attitude of the majority of SL clubs to "development", training, and assisting the game as a whole.
Buy! Its easier than hard work.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Not a cat in hells chance!
There's talk of the perennial crock called Kurt Gidley being SL standard
Or, in the real world, clubs know that having seasoned and experienced veterans around will aid the development of the younger players around them.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Buy! Its easier than hard work.'"
On a Brass Plaque outside Red Hall I believe!
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Or, in the real world, clubs know that having seasoned and experienced veterans around will aid the development of the younger players around them.'"
That's a failed argument due to the fact that we haven't beaten the Aussies in a series since 1970 and we haven't won a world cup since 1972.
The only answer is to phase out the imports over a period of time forcing British clubs to take junior development seriously.
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| There's nothing wrong with having a few imports. They increase the quality of the competition. The aim should be a max of 3 per club in my opinion.
Which was the original target of the NFT rule when it was brought in. For some reason and without explanation or announcement that was scrapped and bizarrely a rise from 5 to 7 was implemented.
We're still better than we were several years ago and some clubs are doing better at producing players. We now need the 2 or 3 clubs lagging behind in that department to catch up and the other 5 or 6 clubs who are now doing better to go from simply producing adequate squad players to producing quality players regularly.
But those players are aided by having quality imports alongside them. We can't wall ourselves off. Even the amazing, wonderful NRL needs imports.
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