I haven't as yet seen a thread for this, Who does everyone think will fill the top and bottom of the league?

Personally,

1 - Leeds Rhino's
2 - St Helens
3 - Warrington Wolves
4 - Huddersfield Giants
5 - Wigan Warriors
6 - Salford Red Devils
7 - Catalan Dragons
8 - Hull FC
9 - Castleford Tigers
10 - Hull Kr
11- Bradford Bulls
12 - Widnes Vikings
......................................
13 - Wakefield Wildcats
14 - London Broncos


I await the fans of everyones teams arguing as to why they should be further up the league.

Not a bad shout. I think London have to be odds-on to go down, then one of Wakefield, Cas, Widnes or Bradford. Depending on how Cas adapt to life post-Rangi Chase, it could be very tight to avoid 13th place. It wouldn't be a surprise to see KR dragged into it to, but I think they could just be in a league of their own for 9th.

The rest will make up the 8. I think Salford will be 8th with FC 7th, some distance off the rest, who could frankly come in any order for me.

I'll go for:

Warrington
Huddersfield
Wigan
Leeds
St Helens
Catalan
Hull FC
Salford
Hull KR
Castleford
Widnes
Wakefield
Bradford
London

Warrington
Wigan
St.Helens
Leeds
Catalans
Huddersfield
Hull
Salford
Hull KR
Widnes
Castleford
Wakefield
Bradford
London

Hull Kr to win it
Wigan and leeds to be relegated

Funny I had that same dream last night but then I work up and smelt the coffee

Ambitious!
If Wigan come 6th I'll be astounded. Happy, but mostly astounded!

The positions of the top 5/6 are anyone's guess.
After that you have a middle group of
Hull, hull KR , Salford who will fight for the other top 8 places
Then Cas, Wakey, Bradford and Widnes fighting to stay in the top 12
Then poor London. I'd love them to surprise everyone and stay up, the explosion on here would be comedy gold, but they are really up against it, more than any other side I've seen in SL

Top three in any order - Huddersfield, Saints & Wigan.
4 & 5, Warrington and Leeds.
6-9, HullFC, HullKR, Catalans, Salford.
10-14, Bradford, Cas, Wakey, Widnes and London.

As a Wigan fan I hop we win it, also fear Wakey or Widnes and London will be relegated. Why did clubs like Cas, Wakey, Widnes & London vote for relegation?

All teams wanted a reduction to 12 & the return of P&R.

After the initial reduction to 12, the 12x8 structure favours SL teams staying in SL whereas instant P&R would mean they spend a season out of SL if they finish bottom. Being able to finish bottom of the league and still be odds on to stay in SL the next season is very much in their best interests.

Relegation in the past has meant all players contract are void and cancelled.
I think this will apply to this season but we've not been advised if this will continue from 2015.
I just can't understand why a club would vote for relegation knowing half their staff will be made redundent.

I'd guess because the game's stagnating with the same teams not competing in SL, champ teams aren't getting a fair crack at the whip which in turn means that the championship has no motivation. Also it seems the teams want a larger portion of funding because there isn't enough to go around 14 teams, though the RFL and presumably at least some clubs would like some of that spread to the championship to help promote competition. Oh, and the many meaningless games for bottom of the league clubs & having nothing to play for.

Warrington
St Helens
Wigan

Leeds, Catalan and Hudsersfield in any order

Hull FC and Salford to make up the 8

Hull KR, Cas and Widnes in the safe towards end of season group

Bradford, Wakefield to fight it out to stay up

London bottom

Gary Hetherington through his wife and James rule controll wakeys and the widnes vote , London and Bradford are in the debt of the rfl so another couple of yes votes

Salford will self destruct by mid season, Hock will be gone Morley injured and Chase having a hissy fit, can see them in the bottom 4 yet again.

Can see the league being in the same 1-5, 6-9, 10-14 groups as last year.

Your going to eat your words son.