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Looks like it's going to be outlawed from today.

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Interesting post considering its been announced that the shoulder charge will not be permitted in the world club challenge as the international federation have sided with the aussies. Which will probably mean that the shoulder charge will be outlawed for the world cup and as a result, the RFL will probably follow suit and outlaw the shoulder charge.

Then when someone gets a nasty bang in the head from a chest to chest tackle, there'll be calls to ban that type of tackle too.... tackling is a key part of the game - how far do the rule makers go on this subject?

look at soccer....where tackling is almost outlawed whereas 10 years ago players could get stuck right in... If we're not careful, we'll end up with touch and pass every week!

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Cannot tell you how much i'm against this. What is this going to achieve? Just because a few people in the media have been moaning about it, the RFL suddenly cave in.

Contact with the head is already illegal, so just making a tackling technique illegal isn't going to change that. All it will do is infuriate fans when it comes to interpretation. Whats the difference between the shoulder charge and someone hitting with their shoulder? How are the referees suppose to define a shoulder charge.

It's changed nothing in protecting the players as they haven't been any "challenges" that people have gotten away with with the shoulder charge been legal. Ridiculous ruling!

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I don't think it will make much of a difference, we haven't even seen that many shoulder charges so far this season - the only ones we have seen have been illegal challenges anyway!
You don't need a shoulder charge to dominate a tackle - Lulia on Shenton last Friday was a great example of how to make an impact without the use of the shoulder.

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awfull decision just as it was when the Ausies banned it a couple of months ago.

massive over reaction, stats show there are very few injuries resulting from the shoulder charge. of course someone will point to the exeptions to make a case for a ban but the facts dont support removing this element from our game.

furthermore it shows that we've taken it up the rear from the Ausies again.

Pathetic decision that lessens the game for no reason.

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To quote myself from the other day because I can't be d writing out my views again...

Quote: wrap "People who support and cannot see the massive change the shoulder charge is going to bring, they're naive. The problem is that you have league people who are judging what and what isn't a shoulder charge on current, rugby league criteria. But just because that is the criteria now that doesn't mean that's what the criteria is going to be 5 years, 15 years down the line, once the ban has really taken effect. The criteria is going to change; the sport is going to be worse off for it.

Case in pointAnd as for lawsuits. Lawsuit for what? High shots that are already illegal. I'm not well versed in the law, but it doesn't make sense to me. How can an organisation be at risk of lawsuit for brain trauma resulting from an act that's illegal, but not face the same risk - an added risk, actually - for brain trauma which results from legal, accepted play.

Another question on lawsuits. If organisations can face lawsuit over head trauma because of illegal hits to the head, wouldn't the new found illegality of the shoulder charge not matter? Hits to their head have happened and injured people regardless of them being illegal. Shoulder charges are now illegal, but they're still going to happen and people are still going to get hurt from them.

The two points in my last two paragraphs baffle me. If someone could explain that, I'd love to know. As a layman it makes bugger all sense to me. Just thinking about it puts me at risk of brain trauma. I sense my head is on the verge of imploding! 3.8828125:5
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