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Full squad: Ablett, Atkins, Briscoe, S.Burgess, Burrow, Charnley, Chase, Cudjoe, Ellis, Graham, Hall, Hardaker, Hill, Hock, JJB, Mcllorum,Morley, Mossop, Myler, O'Loughlin, Sinfield, Tomkins, Watkins, Westwood



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Picked Graham probably before the GF.
I can also see Westwood withdrawing so he can get fit as he's clearly not 100% with his knee.

Based on the remaining 22, I'd have; (can't decide on right centre)
Tomkins
Hall (Cudjoe/Watkins) Atkins Briscoe
Chase Myler
Burgess Burrow Hill
Hock Ellis
O'Loughlin
Bench - Sinfield Morley Mossop JJB

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picked graham before the grand final??? lol


the squad was announced this morning....if mcnamara can't select a replacement in the 2 days since the grand final then its another reason why he should'nt be picking the team....

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1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Hardaker
4 Watkins
5 Hall
6 Chase
7 Myler
8 S.Burgess
9 McIlorum
10 Mossop
11 Ellis
12 Hock
13 O'Loughlin
S Burrow
S Hill
S Ablett
S JJB

I've left Westwood and Graham out as they probably won't play.

Bit worried about how weak the team looks when you takea few players out, I think it looks very, very strong with Reed, Brough, Widdop, Graham, L.Burgess, Westwood, Ratchford & Roby added to it though.

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why pick graham when he's going to get banned
Possibly because he hasn't actually been banned yet?

We all know it's highly likely that he will get a lengthy ban, but until he receives it he is technically available. I suppose it will also mean that the England games will count towards any ban he may get if he can show he would have been selected.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Hardaker
4 Watkins
5 Hall
6 Chase
7 Myler
8 S.Burgess
9 McIlorum
10 Mossop
11 Ellis
12 Hock
13 O'Loughlin
S Burrow
S Hill
S Ablett
S JJB

I've left Westwood and Graham out as they probably won't play.

Bit worried about how weak the team looks when you takea few players out, I think it looks very, very strong with Reed, Brough, Widdop, Graham, L.Burgess, Westwood, Ratchford & Roby added to it though.'"



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why would mcnamara want these games to count towards his ban?? surely its better for england if he misses a further 3 NRL games??? why pick a 24 man squad knowing only 23 of them can be played??....as usually we've missed the chance to have a look at someone else!

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1. Tomkins (or Hardaker if Tomkins isn't fit)
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Myler
8. Burgess
9. McIlorum
10. Morley
11. Ellis
12. Westwood (if Westwood out - then Hock starts, JJB to bench)
13. O'Loughlin

14. Burrow
15. Hill
16. Hock
17. Graham (Mossop if Graham is suspended)

Am surprised there's no Roby, is he injured? I would have preferred to have the 1,6,7 & 9 playing in these games that are going to play in the World Cup next year.

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roby has been rested

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I can see Tomkins withdrawing from the squad, as a Wigan fan I would much rather he just had a long offseason to recover instead of playing meaningless friendlies.

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Good job he is playing an international tournament then, I would hope he has enough respect for the England shirt and the Welsh and French players not to treat them as second class, and a competitive tournament against them as a meaningless friendly.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Good job he is playing an international tournament then, I would hope he has enough respect for the England shirt and the Welsh and French players not to treat them as second class, and a competitive tournament against them as a meaningless friendly.'"


More the issue he's obviously injured, and that playing him anyway probably isn't the best idea long or short term.

Quote: SmokeyTA "Full squad: Ablett, Atkins, Briscoe, S.Burgess, Burrow, Charnley, Chase, Cudjoe, Ellis, Graham, Hall, Hardaker, Hill, Hock, JJB, Mcllorum,Morley, Mossop, Myler, O'Loughlin, Sinfield, Tomkins, Watkins, Westwood



why pick graham when he's going to get banned
1. Hardaker (Tomkins)
2. Charnley/Briscoe
3. Watkins (Reed maybe)
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Sinfield (Widdop)
7. Chase/Myler (Brough)
8. Burgess
9. McIlorum (Roby)
10. Hill
11. Ellis
12. Ablett (Westwood)
13. O'Loughlin

14. Morley (Graham)
15. Mossop
16. Hock
17. Burrow

With straight swaps for the (players) next year, as my hope atm.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Good job he is playing an international tournament then, I would hope he has enough respect for the England shirt and the Welsh and French players not to treat them as second class, and a competitive tournament against them as a meaningless friendly.'"


Without being too disrepectful to Wales and France, these fixtures do give Mr Macnamara an ideal opportunity to try some of the fringe players, therefore if there are any players with injury hassles, then we should promote some of the younger players.

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Am I right in thinking Micky mac still has 1 game left from his ban?

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Quote: Bovrick "More the issue he's obviously injured, and that playing him anyway probably isn't the best idea long or short term.

1. Hardaker (Tomkins)
2. Charnley/Briscoe
3. Watkins (Reed maybe)
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Sinfield (Widdop)
7. Chase/Myler (Brough)
8. Burgess
9. McIlorum (Roby)
10. Hill
11. Ellis
12. Ablett (Westwood)
13. O'Loughlin

14. Morley (Graham)
15. Mossop
16. Hock
17. Burrow

With straight swaps for the (players) next year, as my hope atm.'"



Hall and Reed worked really well last year on the right, but both play on the left normally, dont see why you break up that.

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