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Meet the next Nathan Tinkler
February 5, 2012
A man of the land ... Geoff Murphy.
Businessman Geoff Murphy wants an NRL team in central Queensland and he went all the way to Wisconsin to find out how to do it.
He did his bit to make central Queensland the beef capital of Australia and now construction tycoon Geoff Murphy wants the region to host a different species of cattle - an NRL team that would enjoy access to the NFL's Green Bay Packers brains trust, thanks to a deal that he brokered last month.
Murphy, the chairman of Beef Australia, was estimated in 2010 to be worth $120 million through his conglomerate of businesses under the JM Kelly umbrella, which includes construction, kitchen design and installation, a window company, plumbing, properties and cattle farms.
As the person who is credited with bankrolling central Queensland's NRL bid he also possesses the tenacity and old school gumption to leave no stone unturned to succeed - including his convincing the world renowned Packers to support a team that doesn't exist - to add considerable bang to his considerable buck.
With Green Bay Packers boss Mark Murphy.
As chairman of central Queensland's NRL bid team Murphy harbours the same view as Newcastle Knights owner and mining billionaire Nathan Tinkler that representation in the national competition would provide locals with a source of aspiration and inspiration.
Two years ago Murphy offered to buy crisis-stricken Melbourne Storm's licence after the salary cap scandal. That didn't happen but his passion to follow the dream was best summed up when he described himself as being like ''a wild boar''.
Murphy, who was named the 2011 Red Meat Achiever of the Year because of his contribution to that industry, told The Sun-Herald the sign that accompanied the 1958 Chevrolet tailgater pick-up truck displayed on the merchandise floor at the Green Bay Packer's Lambeau Field encapsulated the reason why he's determined for central Queensland to enter the NRL.
''It choked me up,'' he said of the placard's sentiment. ''I've been telling people they don't understand what a rugby league team would do for the central Queensland area.
''It's a beautiful-looking vehicle and beside it was a sign which said something along the lines that this vehicle was donated to the Green Bay Packers y Bergstrom Automotive of Wisconsin] to acknowledge what the team had done for business in the area.
''So, it just about choked me up because that's what I'm about for central Queensland. That car was proof people recognised what Green Bay did for that area,'' he said.
Murphy has adopted the famous NFL franchise as a model for central Queensland to follow because he said there were too many similarities to ignore, including the populations, ties to the meat industry, a salt works and the fact that while they had to work within a small population base it was a passionate one.
Murphy spent part of last month with the Packer's chief executive Mark Murphy and both agreed their entities had much more in common than their surname.
''One of the things I wanted to bring home from the experience was to form an exchange system of employees [players] and management when we get our team,'' he said. ''The idea was they'd spend time with us and we'd spend time with them. I asked if we could become associate sister clubs and after a lot of discussion their solicitor is drawing up an MOU.
''There's no doubt we can learn a lot from the Green Bay Packers, they're the most successful franchise in America even though they come from the smallest [population] base. They're No. 8 as far as their standing in terms of their income and so on, but they lead the pack in results.''
According to Murphy the similarities between the two entities were area, which is a lot more than they do, but they have a stadium that holds 72,000 and every game is booked out through annual subscription,'' he said.
''I have a note that says if I'd applied for a subscription while I was there I'd have to wait something like 1900 years to get my annual tickets. Something like only 40 become available each year.
''The demand for Green Bay tickets is so great you aren't allowed to sell them to anyone else. You can allow people to use it, but you can't on sell your subscription.''
Murphy said while central Queensland might not follow the NRL franchises's ownership system he said it had piqued his interest.
''It's a unique system and one that we might not necessarily use, but the people are the shareholders of the Green Bay Packers,'' he said.
''However, they can't sell their shares. They can give them away to members of their family but they can't sell them. It has been so successful there is a limit on how many you can buy.''
Despite the global economy's immediate future looking grim with the collapse of the euro zone and fears of a depression, Murphy was adamant central Queensland would continue to thrive due to developments in the mining and resource industry, which would bring an anticipated influx of workers from around Australia and New Zealand.
''I have no doubt we can do it,'' he said of entering the national competition. ''We have preliminary plans for a 20,000-seat stadium and we have reasons for that number. I'd prefer to have a full stadium rather than one that might occasionally hold 25,000 but only 10 to 15,000 most other times.
''We have done an enormous amount of work on our bid, when the time comes we will have a comprehensive business plan to present to the game's hierarchy and it will prove we're viable.
''[A business approach] has been missing in rugby league until now. We had a touch of it with the Broncos, but it is a business and you need a business outlook.''
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z1lSRQelYv
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Meet the next Nathan Tinkler
February 5, 2012
A man of the land ... Geoff Murphy.
Businessman Geoff Murphy wants an NRL team in central Queensland and he went all the way to Wisconsin to find out how to do it.
He did his bit to make central Queensland the beef capital of Australia and now construction tycoon Geoff Murphy wants the region to host a different species of cattle - an NRL team that would enjoy access to the NFL's Green Bay Packers brains trust, thanks to a deal that he brokered last month.
Murphy, the chairman of Beef Australia, was estimated in 2010 to be worth $120 million through his conglomerate of businesses under the JM Kelly umbrella, which includes construction, kitchen design and installation, a window company, plumbing, properties and cattle farms.
As the person who is credited with bankrolling central Queensland's NRL bid he also possesses the tenacity and old school gumption to leave no stone unturned to succeed - including his convincing the world renowned Packers to support a team that doesn't exist - to add considerable bang to his considerable buck.
With Green Bay Packers boss Mark Murphy.
As chairman of central Queensland's NRL bid team Murphy harbours the same view as Newcastle Knights owner and mining billionaire Nathan Tinkler that representation in the national competition would provide locals with a source of aspiration and inspiration.
Two years ago Murphy offered to buy crisis-stricken Melbourne Storm's licence after the salary cap scandal. That didn't happen but his passion to follow the dream was best summed up when he described himself as being like ''a wild boar''.
Murphy, who was named the 2011 Red Meat Achiever of the Year because of his contribution to that industry, told The Sun-Herald the sign that accompanied the 1958 Chevrolet tailgater pick-up truck displayed on the merchandise floor at the Green Bay Packer's Lambeau Field encapsulated the reason why he's determined for central Queensland to enter the NRL.
''It choked me up,'' he said of the placard's sentiment. ''I've been telling people they don't understand what a rugby league team would do for the central Queensland area.
''It's a beautiful-looking vehicle and beside it was a sign which said something along the lines that this vehicle was donated to the Green Bay Packers y Bergstrom Automotive of Wisconsin] to acknowledge what the team had done for business in the area.
''So, it just about choked me up because that's what I'm about for central Queensland. That car was proof people recognised what Green Bay did for that area,'' he said.
Murphy has adopted the famous NFL franchise as a model for central Queensland to follow because he said there were too many similarities to ignore, including the populations, ties to the meat industry, a salt works and the fact that while they had to work within a small population base it was a passionate one.
Murphy spent part of last month with the Packer's chief executive Mark Murphy and both agreed their entities had much more in common than their surname.
''One of the things I wanted to bring home from the experience was to form an exchange system of employees [players] and management when we get our team,'' he said. ''The idea was they'd spend time with us and we'd spend time with them. I asked if we could become associate sister clubs and after a lot of discussion their solicitor is drawing up an MOU.
''There's no doubt we can learn a lot from the Green Bay Packers, they're the most successful franchise in America even though they come from the smallest [population] base. They're No. 8 as far as their standing in terms of their income and so on, but they lead the pack in results.''
According to Murphy the similarities between the two entities were area, which is a lot more than they do, but they have a stadium that holds 72,000 and every game is booked out through annual subscription,'' he said.
''I have a note that says if I'd applied for a subscription while I was there I'd have to wait something like 1900 years to get my annual tickets. Something like only 40 become available each year.
''The demand for Green Bay tickets is so great you aren't allowed to sell them to anyone else. You can allow people to use it, but you can't on sell your subscription.''
Murphy said while central Queensland might not follow the NRL franchises's ownership system he said it had piqued his interest.
''It's a unique system and one that we might not necessarily use, but the people are the shareholders of the Green Bay Packers,'' he said.
''However, they can't sell their shares. They can give them away to members of their family but they can't sell them. It has been so successful there is a limit on how many you can buy.''
Despite the global economy's immediate future looking grim with the collapse of the euro zone and fears of a depression, Murphy was adamant central Queensland would continue to thrive due to developments in the mining and resource industry, which would bring an anticipated influx of workers from around Australia and New Zealand.
''I have no doubt we can do it,'' he said of entering the national competition. ''We have preliminary plans for a 20,000-seat stadium and we have reasons for that number. I'd prefer to have a full stadium rather than one that might occasionally hold 25,000 but only 10 to 15,000 most other times.
''We have done an enormous amount of work on our bid, when the time comes we will have a comprehensive business plan to present to the game's hierarchy and it will prove we're viable.
''[A business approach] has been missing in rugby league until now. We had a touch of it with the Broncos, but it is a business and you need a business outlook.''
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z1lSRQelYv
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| Get the man on board, and lets get John Singleton on board as well by giving an NRL place to the Central Coast.
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| Yeah forget about where is the best place to have teams. Let's go on which old bloke is behind them.
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| Quote: ECT "Yeah forget about where is the best place to have teams. Let's go on which old bloke is behind them.'"
So where would you put any new NRL clubs?
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| In 2014 or 15? Perth, Brisbane.
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| Quote: ECT "In 2014 or 15? Perth, Brisbane.'"
You have a lot of people sharing that opinion with you ECT.
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| It makes the most sense.
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| 2014 Perth & Brisbane
2020 Wellington and Adelaide/PNG
Leave CC for a relocation
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| Quote: ECT "In 2014 or 15? Perth, Brisbane.'"
The NRL are not going to put another NRL club in Brisbane any time soon.
I agree with you about Perth. Bring in the Central coast bears, and move Cronulla and the Roosters out to Adelaide and Central Queensland.
The massive benefits will be that in the future the NRL will get a TV deal to match the AFLs and putting clubs in Adelaide and Perth will cause the AFL to rethink their expansion plans as they will triple the money they spend on Junior development in Adelaide and Perth in the hope that it will reduce the amount of junior players playing Rugby League in them cities, and that money would have been spent in Western Sydney. The clubs on the Central Coast and Central Queensland affectively ties up the East Coast from the threat from the other football codes. After that you could then bring in another Brisbane club to kill off union, Soccer, and AFL in Queensland. The lack of money that the AFL will have for junior development in NSW, after incresed spending in Perth and Adelaide will stop their progress their as well.
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| Nice idea but what happens when this guy kicks the bucket? He might only have a couple of years left in him.
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| Quote: Huddersfield1895 "The NRL are not going to put another NRL club in Brisbane any time soon.
I agree with you about Perth. Bring in the Central coast bears, and move Cronulla and the Roosters out to Adelaide and Central Queensland.
The massive benefits will be that in the future the NRL will get a TV deal to match the AFLs and putting clubs in Adelaide and Perth will cause the AFL to rethink their expansion plans as they will triple the money they spend on Junior development in Adelaide and Perth in the hope that it will reduce the amount of junior players playing Rugby League in them cities, and that money would have been spent in Western Sydney. The clubs on the Central Coast and Central Queensland affectively ties up the East Coast from the threat from the other football codes. After that you could then bring in another Brisbane club to kill off union, Soccer, and AFL in Queensland. The lack of money that the AFL will have for junior development in NSW, after incresed spending in Perth and Adelaide will stop their progress their as well.'"
I tend to think Brisbane is way way way more likely to get a side than Adelaide or Rockhampton. Not least because relocation is not on the agenda and Adelaide doesn't even have a bid. If there is going to be a relocation, and I doubt there ever will be, it will be to the Central Coast with the new franchises in Perth and Brisbane.
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| they arent just going to pick up a club and move it somewhere. if you take cronulla away from their current base, you lose the entire area to rugby league. it is probably the only sydney area that completely relies on local support. same with the roosters, they are not going anywhere. they have been around for over 100 years, and have very influential people behind them. the nrl arent going to move a team away from the eastern suburbs. sydney is fine, well covered and should be seen as a strength in rugby league.
id go perth 2014 and brisbane 2 in 2015 as well. hate the name brisbane bombers, it is a stupid name but i would like to see 2 brissy teams playing out of suncorp.
we need to give png the best opportunity to enter a team into the competition by 2020. the work should be starting now, whatever happened to them entering a team in the qld cup? and another nz team is pretty damn obvious for the growth of our sport. southern nz based out of wellington or christchurch and sharing the games between a couple of locations is a must! ill be pretty happy after this. i can see the value of a central coast team as well, it is just not more important than the teams i mentioned and i dont know if they will ever get an opportunity.
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| Best sport in the world meets dullest. The only thing we have to learn from them is how to hype something beyond belief, but then we've got something worth hyping.
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| CQ NRL Bid CEO Denis Keeffe was interviewed by Talkin Sport in Sydney (on 2SM 1269 AM) at 4.15pm (5.15pm in NSW) "Talkin' Sport is Sydney's only drive time Sports show. From 3pm til 7pm join Graeme Hughes, Gavin Robertson, Peter Tunks and Brett Papworth."
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| Quote: Huddersfield1895 "
The massive benefits will be that in the future the NRL will get a TV deal to match the AFLs and putting clubs in Adelaide and Perth will cause the AFL to rethink their expansion plans as they will triple the money they spend on Junior development in Adelaide and Perth in the hope that it will reduce the amount of junior players playing Rugby League in them cities, and that money would have been spent in Western Sydney. The lack of money that the AFL will have for junior development in NSW, after incresed spending in Perth and Adelaide will stop their progress their as well.'"
Me thinks you don't understand the Australian rules landscape very well! The AFL hardly fund jnr AR in WA, the WAFL funds 95% of it and has an income that is greater than the entire ARL's! Whilst I applaud your support for a team in Perth, and there are many reasons it has to be the next place for expansion, your are kidding yourself if you think it will make a blind bit of difference to the AFL or WAFL.
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