Any ideas when dates and venues are going to be announced for this years competition?

I'm sure it was announced earlier than this for 2009.

I know the finals date has been confirmed. Not sure about other games

Flipping 'eck!

Is the Agar style of Rugby that boring??

Hopefully all of the Wales games are in Wales! That would be a great start.... market the hell out of them and grow the sport in Wales. Get a sell-out at Wrexham for the England game and have the other two at either Cardiff or Swansea.

I'm running a trip to the England v Australia game, but obviously cant plan anything yet.

In answer to the Agar related question.......YES!!

Wembley Double Header to open the 4 Nations

...will not be happening, due to the huge cost.

Trust me its happening

Mistake if it is. No way will you get 90,000 into Wembley for a competition opener unless there are free coaches from the M62 and it's a tenner a ticket.

Wrapped in a 20 pound note , or a fifty if it's me

The opening game should be Aus v NZ at the stoop.

I think all games need to be priced better this year. Tenner behind the goals, 15 down the side, 20 for the middle.

Why do we want it at the stoop?

For all the Aussies? It's our comp.

Play it at the kc or Wigan and let season ticket holders of any club in at half price.

It has been a success there in the past. Just because it is at the stoop does not mean season ticket holders can't go and watch it there. Surely its better to have it where all the NZ and aussie folk live.

When you say success what have the attendences been?

The Aussies can't be bothered to watch their national side in parramatta, why should we cater for them?

work it out...

NRL grand final is on the 2nd october
ESL grand final is on the 8th october

england warm up game v france (tbc) minus grand final players 14/15th october

1st round of the 4nations 28th/29th october


just need the stadiums to be announced