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| Although the Aussies think it's a warm up game, and prefer the Charity Shield, the World Club Challenge is actually quite good in Britian, so perhaps an expansion exercise could take place, I've thought about doing it a little differently, perhaps over a weekend or something.
French Title Winners vs Catalans Dragons (French Club Championship)
Winner FCC vs Challenge Cup Winner
Winner Game 2 vs Winner Super League
Winner Game 3 vs NRL Title Winner
It immediately gives SL and NRL Winners an advantage, but also gives teams like Limoux or Catlans chance to play for it as well, as well as recognizing challenge cup winners.
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| Too complicated. Just have two groups. 1st and 2nd on the NRL vs 3rd and 4th in the superleague and vica versa.
If that was the situation next year we would have
Group A
SGI
Roosters
Huddersfield
Leeds
Group B
Wigan
Saints
West Tigers
Titans
1 vs 2 in the Semi finals and then the final.
Getting the Aussies to agree to any expansion would be hard. First things first we would need to get the game played at the end of the season not the start.
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| Maybe a top 4 - like a Champions Cup or something?
For example the top four teams in the ESL and the NRL get paid to play in it. This would add more Prestige to both the League Leader's and Minor Premiership trophy.
This is how I would do it: -
ESL 1 vs NRL 4
ESL 2 vs NRL 3
NRL 1 vs ESL 4
NRL 2 vs ESL 3
On a knockout basis
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| No , no ,no ,no , no ,no , for the last time , NO
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| so that's a yes from Starbug.
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| You could sort it by a rankings system like ERC - here is my attempt based on all results including finals;
1 SGI Dragons
2 W Warriors
3 Roosters
4 Titans
5 Tigers
6 Panthers
7 St Helens
8 Warriors
9 Raiders
10 Wolves
11 Rabbitohs
12 Eagles
13 Giants
14 Rhinos
15 Knights
16 Broncos
17 Hull
18 Bulldogs
19 Eels
20 Hull KR
21 Sharks
22 Crusaders
23 Tigers
24 Cowboys
25 Bulls
26 Trinity
27 Reds
28 Harlequins
29 Dragons
30 Storm
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| If it is to change, keep it simple to start off with. 2 SL teams and 2 NRL teams to contest a semi final each.
The qualifiers could be Grand Final winners and minor premiers to give more of a reward for winning the league. If that's the same team, then GF winners and GF runners up.
Its only one more extra fixture than clubs have now but its better than we currently have.
e.g 2011 would be
Wigan v Sydney
St George v St Helens
then week after the Final.
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| Quote: Conorgiantsfan "Although the Aussies think it's a warm up game, and prefer the Charity Shield, the World Club Challenge is actually quite good in Britian, so perhaps an expansion exercise could take place, I've thought about doing it a little differently, perhaps over a weekend or something.
French Title Winners vs Catalans Dragons (French Club Championship)
Winner FCC vs Challenge Cup Winner
Winner Game 2 vs Winner Super League
Winner Game 3 vs NRL Title Winner
It immediately gives SL and NRL Winners an advantage, but also gives teams like Limoux or Catlans chance to play for it as well, as well as recognizing challenge cup winners.'"
What an absoolutely shocking idea...that is literally the worst idea i have ever read on rlfans (thats quite an achievement)
What club in their right mind would want to play several matches in the same weekend, at the very start of the new season?
So the runner up in Super League, doesnt get to play for the charity shield, but two french clubs (one of which isnt even a professional team) do, how the hell can you justify that?
Do you not think that every match would be ridiculousy one sided (Catalans superior fitness will mean they easily beat the best french team; and from there on in, the team that has already played that weekend would get absolutely stuffed)? Unless of course you played this competition over several weeks...but why the hell would anyone want to do that, when it wouldnt mean anything (because teams like catalans get in just because they are french and some semi pro team gets in for the same reason, wheras the the SL runners up dont get a place) when we already have (imo) too long a season, the top players barely get a preseason as it is, with the internationals?
I have an idea... why not, the week before magic weekend, to kick the season off with a bang, have a wacky weekend (instead of your idea)... first, the U11 Humberside Youth League Division One Champions take on the 7th placed team of the open age japanese rugby union championship, for a chance to play the winner of the french league, the winner of which, goes on to play, the team whose name is 3rd aphabetically in the Championship (unless its a leap year of course), with the winner playing Widnes. The winner of that, goes on to play the NRL champions, with the winners playing The SL champions. All games kick off 1 minute after the final whistle of the previous game, so it would be a day of non stop action and excitement, it would give all sorts of teams a chance to compete, and would be considerably less complicated than your idea.
What do you think? We could play it somewhere that RL seems to be struggling to catch on, to try and give a much needed boost to the area... the first year could be in Huddersfield.
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| Quote: Widnes 'till i die "What an absoolutely shocking idea...that is literally the worst idea i have ever read on rlfans (thats quite an achievement)
What club in their right mind would want to play several matches in the same weekend, at the very start of the new season?
So the runner up in Super League, doesnt get to play for the charity shield, but two french clubs (one of which isnt even a professional team) do, how the hell can you justify that?
Do you not think that every match would be ridiculousy one sided (Catalans superior fitness will mean they easily beat the best french team; and from there on in, the team that has already played that weekend would get absolutely stuffed)? Unless of course you played this competition over several weeks...but why the hell would anyone want to do that, when it wouldnt mean anything (because teams like catalans get in just because they are french and some semi pro team gets in for the same reason, wheras the the SL runners up dont get a place) when we already have (imo) too long a season, the top players barely get a preseason as it is, with the internationals?
I have an idea... why not, the week before magic weekend, to kick the season off with a bang, have a wacky weekend (instead of your idea)... first, the U11 Humberside Youth League Division One Champions take on the 7th placed team of the open age japanese rugby union championship, for a chance to play the winner of the french league, the winner of which, goes on to play, the team whose name is 3rd aphabetically in the Championship (unless its a leap year of course), with the winner playing Widnes. The winner of that, goes on to play the NRL champions, with the winners playing The SL champions. All games kick off 1 minute after the final whistle of the previous game, so it would be a day of non stop action and excitement, it would give all sorts of teams a chance to compete, and would be considerably less complicated than your idea.
What do you think? We could play it somewhere that RL seems to be struggling to catch on, to try and give a much needed boost to the area... the first year could be in Huddersfield.'"
Somebody leaked something at Red Hall
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "Too complicated. Just have two groups. 1st and 2nd on the NRL vs 3rd and 4th in the superleague and vica versa.
If that was the situation next year we would have
Group A
SGI
Roosters
Huddersfield
Leeds
Group B
Wigan
Saints
West Tigers
Titans
1 vs 2 in the Semi finals and then the final.
Getting the Aussies to agree to any expansion would be hard. First things first we would need to get the game played at the end of the season not the start.'"
Wolves not Hudds.
I like this idea, but it's too big for it's purpose. It means a lot of games would be played, which isn't wanted considering the season would be starting soon after, as the clubs wouldn't go for it as it adds extra fatigue and a possibility of injuries.
I think having either the top 2 of each league, or the 2 finalists from each league, in a
SL 1 Vs NRL 2
SL 2 Vs NRL 1
straight knockout, two winners compete in the the final.
That'd be decent.
Alternativly, you could have a 4 nations-esque competition between the 4, but that'd span 4 weeks and would take too long and then my earlier point comes in against it.
Tbh, the best way would just be to advertise the hell out of it, both in Aus and over here, and get it so that the host country alternates each year.
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| How about the British Champions versus the Aussie Champions?
Also rans don't deserve to be classed as World Club Champions.
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| Just can the WCC.
It's a total waste of time and a very expensive contractual obligation that is considered nothing more than a long distance trial match by the Aussie sides.
They usually draw lots to see who DOESNT fly to Britain!
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| We tried a multi team WCC in 1997 and it was a disaster for British RL
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| Quote: Widnes 'till i die "icon_eek.gif
Shut up. You know you love the idea.
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