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If we really cared about Int RL and cared more than we do about SL then here is what I would do when made king!

1. Remove 500,000 pounds from each SL club grant per year
2. Give each SL club an area containing 50 schools
3. Entice those 50 schools to play RL with an annual grant of 10,000 pounds each to run two age teams in an inter school comp running from Feb-June. The grant could be used for pitch and facility development, teachers to get coaching qualifications, kit etc.
4. For the SL club to get the rest of the TV grant they have to provide those 50 schools ith support, coaching clinics, meet the players etc etc
5. As part of the holding of a franchise Sl clubs have to run an elite schoolboy academy picking the best kids from thsoe 50 school competitions. These elite squads then play each other during summer holidays in an interclub elite competition. The kids receive a higher level of coaching as well as get inspiration to go on and work hard to become pro RL players.


Imagine somewhere like Hull. 100 schools running two well coached and equipped teams each. 4000 kids playing schoolboy RL. Two elite squads at two age groups. WE"D SEE dozens of quality players coming through within a decade. And all for the price of 3 or 4 overseas players salaries a year!

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Last time I checked there wasn't a problem in the Wakefield district with High Schools producing good players, 2 high schools from Cas alone make the National finals every year, Wigan/St Helens area have good schools, so does Wales. It's not the fault of schools the national team aren't good enough, it's BARLA's for not moving the junior game to the summer - that would increase participation numbers because football isn't played at the same time and it's far better weather to play the game, what 11 year old wants to play RL on a Sunday morning in fog and minus numbers temperature?

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Quote: Gaslight "Last time I checked there wasn't a problem in the Wakefield district with High Schools producing good players, 2 high schools from Cas alone make the National finals every year, Wigan/St Helens area have good schools, so does Wales. It's not the fault of schools the national team aren't good enough, it's BARLA's for not moving the junior game to the summer - that would increase participation numbers because football isn't played at the same time and it's far better weather to play the game, what 11 year old wants to play RL on a Sunday morning in fog and minus numbers temperature?'"


Absolutely spot on!

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Quote: Gaslight "Last time I checked there wasn't a problem in the Wakefield district with High Schools producing good players, 2 high schools from Cas alone make the National finals every year, Wigan/St Helens area have good schools, so does Wales. It's not the fault of schools the national team aren't good enough, it's BARLA's for not moving the junior game to the summer - that would increase participation numbers because football isn't played at the same time and it's far better weather to play the game, what 11 year old wants to play RL on a Sunday morning in fog and minus numbers temperature?'"


How many schoolboy players are ther? In my schme there would be 2000 in Cas's area, 2000 in Wakeys area etc. Only when we get to these sort of numbers (as the Aussies have done) will we see large amount of talent coming out of the school system. re the summer bit, this is where the SL clubs elite system would kick in. With all due respect to BARLA we need a structure that teaches kids under a high talent scheme from the age of 14 onwards. Jus like the Australians have done.

ps Imagine how much quicker the likes of France and Wales would develop as well if they were forced to have 50 schools each unde rthem!

the money is there, we are just choosing to spend it in the wrong places for what oour game needs

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taking money from the top of the game wont help.

standards will drop at the top level and we will never get anywhere near as close as we are now. crowds will drop further, money will drop further..etc..

the problem is that RL is a minority sport here, and the number 1 sport in Sydney - the best athletes in Sydney play RL, the best athletes in the UK play football. There is nothing that can be done to address that IMO.

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As much as I like the idea of schools being tied to clubs (especially in the Cas area, given that it is arguably the top hotbed of talent in the UK along with Wigan), I don't really see where clubs struggling to make ends meet will find £500k to cut from their budgets.

Points 2, 4 and 5 could be done without taking money out of clubs, and should perhaps be a part of the licence criteria - another tick box under youth development. Possibly put free tickets in for an incentive rather than cash?

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TBH the money should be coming from the RFL, not the clubs. It's the RFL's job to maintain and develop the game so it's they who should foot the bill

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Quote: saints35 bulls0 "taking money from the top of the game wont help.

standards will drop at the top level and we will never get anywhere near as close as we are now. crowds will drop further, money will drop further..etc..

the problem is that RL is a minority sport here, and the number 1 sport in Sydney - the best athletes in Sydney play RL, the best athletes in the UK play football. There is nothing that can be done to address that IMO.'"


I keep hearing this but is it really true? We produced world class RL players 30 years ago and Football was just as big in this country as it is now. Also who are these top athletes that play football how many English footballers have ever played RL? And how did we miss out on them? Apart from Giggs

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Haven't the RFL just been awarded £30 million from Sport England for grass roots developement?

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Quote: Gaslight "Last time I checked there wasn't a problem in the Wakefield district with High Schools producing good players, 2 high schools from Cas alone make the National finals every year, Wigan/St Helens area have good schools, so does Wales. It's not the fault of schools the national team aren't good enough, it's BARLA's for not moving the junior game to the summer - that would increase participation numbers because football isn't played at the same time and it's far better weather to play the game, what 11 year old wants to play RL on a Sunday morning in fog and minus numbers temperature?'"

Nail, head. The fact that kids still play rugby in winter is incredible.

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We certainly need the amatuer game to move to the summer. It's so silly that it's still a winter sport.

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Quote: Roofaldo "TBH the money should be coming from the RFL, not the clubs. It's the RFL's job to maintain and develop the game so it's they who should foot the bill'"


It would be doing, by not giving clubs all of the Sky money to squander on ageing antipodeans!

If you don't spend significant amounts on Jnr RL then we will never ever get anywhere. it is down to two things, 1. numbers 2. quality of coaching through the age groups

The more players you have the more cream rises and the better chance to find our own Slater or Inglis. We face a battle to entice schoolkids to play RL over soccer. What better way than "sponsoring" schools with significant amounts of money to take up RL and giving them an infrastructure to do it well?

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Quote: The Nihilist "I keep hearing this but is it really true? We produced world class RL players 30 years ago and Football was just as big in this country as it is now. '"


The game has changed completely. no disrespect to the guys who played 30 years ago, but the athletic requirements of players at the top level now are completely different.

we are probably producing the same number of world class players we did in the past - we have never had a team of 1-13 world class superstars.

the Aussies have a freaky number of world class players us at this moment in time. Swap Billy Slater and Greg Inglis with Briscoe and Bridge - and we would be celebrating a 4Nations win now.

Quote: The Nihilist "Also who are these top athletes that play football how many English footballers have ever played RL? And how did we miss out on them? Apart from Giggs'"


thats the point I was making - they never play RL, they never have and never will. There is nothing we can do about the domination of football in this country.

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There seems to be a bit of a contradiction here: we can't compete with football because so many kids want to play it, yet we need to change RL to a summer season because kids don't want to play outside in the winter.

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thats the point I was making - they never play RL, they never have and never will. There is nothing we can do about the domination of football in this country.'"


I disagree, get schools on board through first of all touch RL then money support and structured school comps and kids will play the game. I played hockey at school. Not because I liked it, not because I wanted to be a hockey player but becasue our PE teacher told us we had to!

Penrith Leagues spends over 300,000 pounds a year on jnr RL in their area, an area similiar in population to Huddersfield. I wonder how much the Giants spend on Jnr RL?

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