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| What a tart!!!
Small time utility player will get bored never seeing theball in union and come back when he's made his fortune, then realise he was never goodenough anyway.
Greg Inglis proved it, good riddance, never play him again.
Enjoy your big payout showpony.
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| He's a fullback. If he'd concentrated on that role he'd be a far better one than onybody else England could pick. He's not really a winger, and he's definitely not a centre. The mere fact that he got picked there says it all about who else is available.
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| He was awful and should have never been picked in the first place. He certainly shouldnt be picked in the next match.
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| If England left out every player who was likely to get embarrassed by Greg Inglis they wouldn't have anyone left on the pitch.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "If England left out every player who was likely to get embarrassed by Greg Inglis they wouldn't have anyone left on the pitch.'"
What rubbish. He is a player that was embarrassed by Inglis, so there is no likely about it in his case. In the 2nd half when he was moved from the centre England looked much more solid down the right side. Indeed Inglis did nothing as the defence was much better. Even in the 1st half it wasnt as if Inglis was running straight through him, half decent positional play would have stopped the tries where Smith was at fault.
He is simply not international standard and was chosen for the world cup last year on the back of a good display in the grand final when for parts of that season he couldnt even make the Leeds starting 13. This year he has done okay, but nothing special, in the best team in the league. It is hardly like we are talking about a superstar who just had a bad day. In addition he has chosen to go to Union so isnt even worth persevering with for the future. Get rid and give someone that wants to play Rugby League, and who will be around for England selection in the coming years, the chance.
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| Like Chris "Irish when it suits" Bridge or Paul "What position am I playing" Sykes?
If you think either of them would have done better on Saturday you're only fooling yourself.
England's problem in that first half wasn't personnel, it was defensive structure. Every time Australia moved the ball right the whole defensive line compressed over to that side of the field. Couple of big long passes to their left and suddenly you've got two of the best players in the world (Inglis and Slater) operating in acres of space with a big overlap because the ball is being moved faster than the defence can slide.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "England's problem in that first half wasn't personnel, it was defensive structure. Every time Australia moved the ball right the whole defensive line compressed over to that side of the field. Couple of big long passes to their left and suddenly you've got two of the best players in the world (Inglis and Slater) operating in acres of space with a big overlap because the ball is being moved faster than the defence can slide.'"
Nail on head.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Like Chris "Irish when it suits" Bridge or Paul "What position am I playing" Sykes?
If you think either of them would have done better on Saturday you're only fooling yourself.
England's problem in that first half wasn't personnel, it was defensive structure. Every time Australia moved the ball right the whole defensive line compressed over to that side of the field. Couple of big long passes to their left and suddenly you've got two of the best players in the world (Inglis and Slater) operating in acres of space with a big overlap because the ball is being moved faster than the defence can slide.'"
Spot on - can you let HKR fans know? Some of them seem to think it was all Tom Briscoe's fault.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Spot on - can you let HKR fans know? Some of them seem to think it was all Tom Briscoe's fault.'"
Do you a deal Chris, I'll do that if you can let the Saints fans know it wasn't all down to Sinfield, Smith and McGuire.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Do you a deal Chris, I'll do that if you can let the Saints fans know it wasn't all down to Sinfield, Smith and McGuire.'"
But it was... Not just Saints fans think that mate. Briscoe was in no way at fault.
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| Never mind if he's deserved his place on merit or not throughout the season, he should not have been picked. If Tony Smith is building for the 2013 World Cup then why pick a player who's played his last game of club rugby league?
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| Quote: PONNER "Never mind if he's deserved his place on merit or not throughout the season, he should not have been picked. If Tony Smith is building for the 2013 World Cup then why pick a player who's played his last game of club rugby league?'"
Isn't Tony Smith's job to win the 2009 Four Nations by picking what he considers his best available team?
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Like Chris "Irish when it suits" Bridge or Paul "What position am I playing" Sykes?
If you think either of them would have done better on Saturday you're only fooling yourself.
England's problem in that first half wasn't personnel, it was defensive structure. Every time Australia moved the ball right the whole defensive line compressed over to that side of the field. Couple of big long passes to their left and suddenly you've got two of the best players in the world (Inglis and Slater) operating in acres of space with a big overlap because the ball is being moved faster than the defence can slide.'"
Absolutely correct. Although it's up to those players left exposed (and the full back, who can see better than anyone) to tell any players who've been sucked in to get back in position and be aware of Slater slotting into their back line and creating the overlap.
Inglis has two main weapons. His outstanding sidestep - normally off his right foot, but either way is blindingly fast. He'll run at his opposite centre, pull him wide, and then slice inside. He's so big and fast that if he creates a few inches he's through, but it seemed to me that Eastmond's reactions were fast enough to cope and his size meant he went low and avoided Inglis's upper body strength. And then of course Inglis has that pace - give him any space and those long legs take him away from you, and in full flight he's almost impossible to stop. And of course he's a freakishly outstanding athlete.
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| Quote: Cronus "Inglis has two main weapons. His outstanding sidestep - normally off his right foot, but either way is blindingly fast. He'll run at his opposite centre, pull him wide, and then slice inside. He's so big and fast that if he creates a few inches he's through, but it seemed to me that Eastmond's reactions were fast enough to cope and his size meant he went low and avoided Inglis's upper body strength. And then of course Inglis has that pace - give him any space and those long legs take him away from you, and in full flight he's almost impossible to stop. And of course he's a freakishly outstanding athlete.'"
The difference in the second half was that England spread their defensive line a little more, and the Australians weren't willing to be as adventurous as they were dealing with worse field position and trying to run a lot of escape sets. Hence the big shifts of the ball from right to left weren't being used as often.
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| Id play him at fullback against the Kiwis.
Smith
Briscoe
Ellis
Shenton
Hall.
I dont like Shaun Briscoe at full back.
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