FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Reserves to be scrapped
46 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member43413
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3614_1281651917.jpg
[url:2qyny6du]https://twitter.com/Mr_Hutchie[/url:2qyny6du] [b:2qyny6du]@Mr_Hutchie[/b:2qyny6du] [url:2qyny6du]http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/hullwykearlfc/[/url:2qyny6du]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3614.jpg



And replced by a new intense u20's competition.How many times is it now that this grade has been changed about

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman25882
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1013_1274975796.gif
Black [color=red:1mjyx80j]Red[/color:1mjyx80j] [color=blue:1mjyx80j]Blue[/color:1mjyx80j] [color=green:1mjyx80j]Green[/color:1mjyx80j]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1013.gif



If they allow a silly number of over age players in the u20s then it will still effectively be the Reserves.

Perhaps limit it to one, like it was with the u21s a few years ago

Or better still, none at all, but then how do you get players coming back from injury match practice

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach317No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2009Jan 1970LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32197.jpg
[url=http://www.chestergladiators.com:1jv88706]Chester Gladiators RLFC[/url:1jv88706] Senior Training: Tuesday & Thursday 6.30pm - 7.30pm @ Chester RUFC, Hare Lane Junior Training: Tuesday & Thursday 6.00pm - 7.00pm @ Chester RUFC, Hare Lane Social memberships & merchandise available and new sponsors always welcome. Contact Jim Green on 07899 717829 or PM me for details.:32197.jpg



If we can replicate the U20 system down under then we will be on to a winner. But I suspect we won't.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach218No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2011Sep 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
disney/00034.gif
"Be you ever so high, the law is above you":disney/00034.gif



It really makes no difference, the gap from " reserve grade" " u21s" " after school club" etc etc will still be to big to make the step to SL for most.

With franchise rugby the sooner the SL clubs adopt junior National league clubs for their youngsters the better.
The intensity will never be even remotely close to SL in under age rugby. Stick them in the NL with hairy assed old pros and watch them grow there. Similar to football. The example being Beckham who went to Preston ( I think ) to learn his trade before making it big.

The lower league clubs get a decent youngster for a period and the senior club still has the benefit of a player being broken in to pro football. The SL club pays his wages and he also trains with the team by day, whilst meeting up with the semi pro team at night.

NL gains a cheap quality player, SL gets a hardend pro who has served an apprentiship.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2912No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Jan 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
25057_1281800333.jpeg
www.hullrockers.co.uk:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25057.jpeg



Quote: Silvia Saint "If we can replicate the U20 system down under then we will be on to a winner. But I suspect we won't.'"


Yeah, why don't we throw another shrimp on the barbie while we're at it.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1430No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2015Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6760.jpg
[b:2e2uhwyq][size=150:2e2uhwyq] When Hull KR got promoted they said there was only room for one elite team in Hull... how right they were! [/size:2e2uhwyq][/b:2e2uhwyq]:6760.jpg



Quote: Silvia Saint "If we can replicate the U20 system down under then we will be on to a winner. But I suspect we won't.'"


Toyota Cup U20 comp only works as a feeder to the NRL because you also have the NSW Cup / Queensland Cup competitions acting as a reserve grade comp for over 20's players not in first grade. As long as the UK league continues to have EITHER a youth competition OR a reserve grade league on their own, it will continue to not work effectively

SL clubs should have an U20 comp, and a short-term loan system where NL clubs become de-facto feeder teams. Either that or have an U20 SL comp AND a reserve-grade SL comp (but I doubt that's affordable, or that we have a big enough player pool to support it)

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach18736No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2013Jan 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
20672.jpg
:CROWN: [color=#4000FF:3cyxr5nr]RLFans.com Soccer Prediction League Champion 2011/2012[/color:3cyxr5nr] :CROWN: [url=http://www.christie.nhs.uk/the-christie-charity/donate.aspx:3cyxr5nr]The Christie - please donate[/url:3cyxr5nr] [url=http://www.popbitch.com/home/2009/10/05/red-pepper-news:3cyxr5nr]Greatest headline ever?[/url:3cyxr5nr]:20672.jpg



Quote: Hull Kingston Bronco "SL clubs should have an U20 comp, and a short-term loan system where NL clubs become de-facto feeder teams. Either that or have an U20 SL comp AND a reserve-grade SL comp (but I doubt that's affordable, or that we have a big enough player pool to support it)'"

this would help with cutting Championship wage bills

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman18803
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Jun 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
699_1268771516.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_699.gif



I would rather they rise the age of the academy league to Under 20 than lower the reserve grade to Under 20s only personally. They had similar (Under 19s & 17s) in the past and it didn't work.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner33944No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9005.jpg
kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Catalancs "this would help with cutting Championship wage bills'"


Not neccessarily , only if the supplying SL club is willing to pay the wages of thier juniors for season long loans

Anything less does not benifit the Championship club in it's own development

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach30No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2009Jan 1970LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



The under 20`s comp in australia is working very well, television audiences are very good and the quality and speed of the game is pleasing viewers. Recently in an australian paper they had pay tv figures and the under 20`s games were being watched by lets say 800 k people and the super 14 rugby had audiences of of 850k . The nrl must be very happy with this.

Lets hope in england that they televise it and its a winner as it is in australia, the future of the game is the youth so in my mind its a must.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner2874No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
8762_1295775855.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_8762.jpg



The most worrying aspect of the changes is the fact that the RFL are considering allowing players to be dual registered with both a SL club and a Championship club.

This, in my view, is the first step towards establishing the Championship clubs as formal feeder clubs to SL.

A bad move in my opinion.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7392No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
20337_1416501684.jpg
Mac out!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20337.jpg



Where would returning over aged players regain their match fitness etc.

If as most teams do have a squad that has more than 17 over aged players how would those not selected keep up there match skills and fitness without a reserve grade option

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12738No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2024Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16.jpg
:16.jpg



Quote: Starbug "Not neccessarily , only if the supplying SL club is willing to pay the wages of thier juniors for season long loans

Anything less does not benifit the Championship club in it's own development'"


So you dont think having youngsters like Tomkins & Eastmond playing for leigh or Widnes would benefit the clubs.

I suspect gates would increase to catch a glimpse of highly promising young players. The standard of play in the championship would also increase.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12738No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2024Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16.jpg
:16.jpg



Quote: Derwent "The most worrying aspect of the changes is the fact that the RFL are considering allowing players to be dual registered with both a SL club and a Championship club.

This, in my view, is the first step towards establishing the Championship clubs as formal feeder clubs to SL.

A bad move in my opinion.'"


Ultimately i think Championship clubs will on the whole turn into feeder teams.

Its not really something new, as historically many clubs would produce youngsters who performed well and then moved onto the big teams.

Certainly the curent position were many championship/league 1 teams are merely existing, and contributing little to the overall well being of RL, cannot continue.
A look at the upper echelons of the main BARLA competitions shows clubs there that offer more to the sport than do the so called profesional teams.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner2874No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
8762_1295775855.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_8762.jpg



Quote: The Chair Maker "Ultimately i think Championship clubs will on the whole turn into feeder teams.

Its not really something new, as historically many clubs would produce youngsters who performed well and then moved onto the big teams.

Certainly the curent position were many championship/league 1 teams are merely existing, and contributing little to the overall well being of RL, cannot continue.
A look at the upper echelons of the main BARLA competitions shows clubs there that offer more to the sport than do the so called profesional teams.'"


During all of the franchising debates the pro-lobby were saying that the NL's should be vibrant competitions in their own right etc etc

Now all of sudden it seems it's ok for the Championship to merely be a SL reserves competition.

Funny that isn't it.

46 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
46 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.06201171875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
34
9m
Salford
TF and the w
15
12m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
158
15m
Film game
karetaker
5654
23m
New Players
BigTime
143
36m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63232
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40739
Recent
Fixtures 2025
The games af
68
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
3
Recent
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
57s
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
34
58s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
homerjsimpso
14
1m
Salford
TF and the w
15
1m
Film game
karetaker
5654
1m
Shopping list for 2025
The games af
5579
1m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
1m
Fixtures 2025
The games af
68
1m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
2m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
3
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
FIL
15
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
3
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
15
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
720
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
547
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1285
England's Women Demolish The W..
1118
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1357
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1145
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1409
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1949
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2160
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2403
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1968
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2209
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2674
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2104
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2176
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 2,397 ↑7380,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
34
9m
Salford
TF and the w
15
12m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
158
15m
Film game
karetaker
5654
23m
New Players
BigTime
143
36m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63232
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40739
Recent
Fixtures 2025
The games af
68
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
3
Recent
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
57s
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
34
58s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
homerjsimpso
14
1m
Salford
TF and the w
15
1m
Film game
karetaker
5654
1m
Shopping list for 2025
The games af
5579
1m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
1m
Fixtures 2025
The games af
68
1m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
2m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
3
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
FIL
15
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
3
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
15
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
720
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
547
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1285
England's Women Demolish The W..
1118
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1357
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1145
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1409
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1949
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2160
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2403
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1968
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2209
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2674
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2104
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2176


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!