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| LONDON BRONCOS STARTING 17 for the 2020 season.
Average age 23 with 17 london trained..... We may not win, we may not host cool beer festivals, but WE ARE LONDON!
1. Ashall-Bott
2. Egodo
3. Armitage
4. Lovell
5. Dixon
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Lightweight squad in terms of injury back up..... But id take london, fax and fev over the mercanaries any day.
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| Quote: AXE2GRIND "LONDON BRONCOS STARTING 17 for the 2020 season.
Average age 23 with 17 london trained..... We may not win, we may not host cool beer festivals, but WE ARE LONDON!
1. Ashall-Bott
2. Egodo
3. Armitage
4. Lovell
5. Dixon
6. Aston
7. Smith
8. Battye
9. Pellisier
10. Butler
11. Walters
12. Curran
13. Adebiyi
14. Fozard
15. Richards
16. Krasniqi
17. Meadows
Lightweight squad in terms of injury back up..... But id take london, fax and fev over the mercanaries any day.'"
Well said and I remember the days when most teams could say they had lots of local players let’s hope one days we will see it again
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Rlfans - the most toxic rugby league forum in the world: |
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| Never heard of any of them
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Never heard of any of them'"
Every player starts out as a "Never heard of him". Give it time.
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| Quote: snowie "you should do some played in these games
She won’t have watched those games.
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| Quote: AXE2GRIND "LONDON BRONCOS STARTING 17 for the 2020 season.
Average age 23 with 17 london trained..... We may not win, we may not host cool beer festivals, but WE ARE LONDON!
1. Ashall-Bott
2. Egodo
3. Armitage
4. Lovell
5. Dixon
6. Aston
7. Smith
8. Battye
9. Pellisier
10. Butler
11. Walters
12. Curran
13. Adebiyi
14. Fozard
15. Richards
16. Krasniqi
17. Meadows
Lightweight squad in terms of injury back up..... But id take london, fax and fev over the mercanaries any day.'"
Clarify '17 London trained'?
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Clarify '17 London trained'?'"
Trained by london or locally at a club supported by london
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| AXE not forgetting the London trained players that have moved on such as LMS, Clubb, McMeakin, Davis(wire), Walker (wakey) the young lad Wigan have just taken..............
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| The real future of rugby league in the northern hemisphere is at Toulouse, which is a club with not only local players, but also, unlike London Broncos, the capacity to draw good crowds, as we saw with the visit of Toronto in 2019.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The real future of rugby league in the northern hemisphere is at Toulouse, which is a club with not only local players, but also, unlike London Broncos, the capacity to draw good crowds, as we saw with the visit of Toronto in 2019.'"
French RL cannot produce many professional quality players to SL standard. It is sadly too small a game now. There are only a handful of french players that are first choice for their SL clubs.
The inclusion of Catalans has only seen their team stuffed more and more with English and NRL players. It will be the same for Toulouse if they wanted to compete in SL.
As for the crowd Toulouse did a fantastic job with the TWP game. However on their way to Superleague via the play offs they played York before 1,132 fans and then Featherstone before 1,068. This was very very poor indeed. This last week Tas Baitieri has come out and revealed the sad state of affairs in the french game, kids don't want to play anymore and the standard of the Elite League is also very poor.
And so we go in the ever eternal circle of people making up clubs of no substance, inventing trans-european, trans atlantic and even global leagues to put them in and then declaring what a massive success it will all be?
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"I have this system where I support England first, then the other Home Nations, then the rest of the Commonwealth, then the rest of the World, then France.": |
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| At the moment I am struggling to see a future for rugby league in England as a fully professional sport. The truth is that, for the vast bulk of its history rugby league in this country was semi-professional. Even when Wigan were at their height pre-superleague they still had numerous players with "proper jobs". The only thing that allowed the game to go genuinely full-time professional was an influx of money from Sky when they were willing to splash huge amounts of cash to acquire as much sport as possible. Now that the TV landscape has changed that money may not be available any longer. To me, rugby league in this country has three options - secure another reasonably lucrative TV deal (if that is even possible), make up that revenue from other sources (I can't see how this can happen at the moment) or start preparing to manage the transition back to a semi-pro game. Since the NRL is in a much more advantageous financial situation than here, that third possibility then basically kills international rugby league outside of the immediate orbit of Australia.
Would this be the death of the sport over here? Perhaps. Sports don't "die" as long as there are people that want to watch and play but I feel that our game has been artificially living beyond its means for twenty-odd years, and I worry that we are on the verge of a reckoning.
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| Quote: tyr "At the moment I am struggling to see a future for rugby league in England as a fully professional sport. The truth is that, for the vast bulk of its history rugby league in this country was semi-professional. Even when Wigan were at their height pre-superleague they still had numerous players with "proper jobs". The only thing that allowed the game to go genuinely full-time professional was an influx of money from Sky when they were willing to splash huge amounts of cash to acquire as much sport as possible. Now that the TV landscape has changed that money may not be available any longer. To me, rugby league in this country has three options - secure another reasonably lucrative TV deal (if that is even possible), make up that revenue from other sources (I can't see how this can happen at the moment) or start preparing to manage the transition back to a semi-pro game. Since the NRL is in a much more advantageous financial situation than here, that third possibility then basically kills international rugby league outside of the immediate orbit of Australia.
Would this be the death of the sport over here? Perhaps. Sports don't "die" as long as there are people that want to watch and play but I feel that our game has been artificially living beyond its means for twenty-odd years, and I worry that we are on the verge of a reckoning.'"
Your comment about RL being semi professional for most of its history, is just irrelevant.
Most sports, especially Union start out as amateur.
However with TV and advertising capable of offering plenty of "investment" into many sport's, which in turn allows those sports to pay their participants, which in turn increase the fitness and in theory the speed and quality of the athletes taking part.
If, however, you are suggesting that RL in the UK and Europe is no longer capable of attracting sufficient revenue to fund a full time professional league, well, that is something completely different. The question then would be, what happens to the current pro clubs and players.
The better players would migrate to Union or down under and the rest would either play amateur or semi pro sport or "get a proper job" and we would be left with something similar to the National League in France.
However, it's a downward spiral and the sport has to grow or die, at least as any kind of pro sport.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The real future of rugby league in the northern hemisphere is at Toulouse, which is a club with not only local players, but also, unlike London Broncos, the capacity to draw good crowds, as we saw with the visit of Toronto in 2019.'"
Accepting you are being provocative, why is the future of RL based solely in one town/city in France. London the capital of the UK with investment could be huge.
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| Everyone has valid points on the growth of the game but all seem to be missing the main way to increase spectators on to the terraces. The only way that we will grow numbers and get the big sponsors to follow is at grass roots level. Until you have teams at under 6/7/8 like union and football do then there will be no significant increase in growth. You have to have the kids wanting to play/watch and that translates to bums on seats at the top level
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