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I was wondering whether young players in England should come over here on a working holiday and see if they can play over here. I know of someone that did it last season, played a few games in NSW Cup (reserve grade) and was nearly signed for an NRL side’s U20s for this year.

I can't think of a reason for them not to, if they're thinking of travelling anyway.

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anthony mullaly of widnes vikings is doing it. hes playin for brisbane under20's and making a big impact, hes contracted to widnes nxt yr for superleague.
theres a highlights reel of him somewhere and it looks as though hes going to be an awesome player

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Australia is rubbish. It has nothing. We've got the sun over here too.

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Quote: Saddened! "Australia is rubbish. It has nothing. We've got the sun over here too.'"


For most of today I heard

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Good idea in theory, but how are you going to convince professional clubs over here that it's in their best interests to expose young players they've spent time and money developing to the better coaching and lifestyle they will experience in Australia?

Their first thoughts will be that the player won't be coming back and they've lost a promising prospect as a result.

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Why do people think the coaching MUST be better in Australia?

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The fact that more than half the coaches in SL are Australian must send a pretty clear message over there.

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Quote: ECT "The fact that more than half the coaches in SL are Australian must send a pretty clear message over there.'"


yes, that misconception is rife. A self fulfilling prophecy, he's Australian, he must know more. Such nonsense and embarassing for us.

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is it a misconception though?


their coaching methods are just far superior than ours....FACT!

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Quote: roughyedspud "is it a misconception though?


their coaching methods are just far superior than ours....FACT!'"



Really? How so?

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have you watched any RL in the past 20years?

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Quote: roughyedspud "have you watched any RL in the past 20years?'"


So every single coach in Australia is far superior to his English counterpart because...

what they know magic tricks? They know the game better? They have secret societies that when they go to England they don't pass on any coaching knowledge that may be different onto English people by using a mind wiping technique. etc. etc.




Australia has far more talent in far greater depth, that's the simplistic answer to your 20 year argument. Even aussies that have played in both countries will tell you that. Nothing to do with coaching. Or did people like Tommy Bishop and Malcolm Reilly teach the aussies how to play before that when they coached over here? In fact, we have a drill in Oz used in conditioning called a Malcolm, which was introduced to Oz by Mr Reilly himself. Even most aussies may not know this was named after him.

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It’d be good if the RFL could get your up and coming stars to play in the NRL rather than possibly lose them to the RFU. Would strengthen the international game and give us a stronger NRL too.

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Quote: Rooster Booster "So every single coach in Australia is far superior to his English counterpart because...

what they know magic tricks? They know the game better? They have secret societies that when they go to England they don't pass on any coaching knowledge that may be different onto English people by using a mind wiping technique. etc. etc.

Australia has far more talent in far greater depth, that's the simplistic answer to your 20 year argument. Even aussies that have played in both countries will tell you that. Nothing to do with coaching. Or did people like Tommy Bishop and Malcolm Reilly teach the aussies how to play before that when they coached over here? In fact, we have a drill in Oz used in conditioning called a Malcolm, which was introduced to Oz by Mr Reilly himself. Even most aussies may not know this was named after him.'"


mal reilly was 20-25 years ago....thats my point


i've likened the fact that are best players are being coached at club level by simmons,mcguire & nathan brown and then going on england camps with McNamara to a 'A'level maths student going back to learning that 2+2 = 4

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Quote: roughyedspud "mal reilly was 20-25 years ago....thats my point


i've likened the fact that are best players are being coached at club level by simmons,mcguire & nathan brown and then going on england camps with McNamara to a 'A'level maths student going back to learning that 2+2



14 years ago.

But why is the perception that those australians are better coaches? Put one in charge of say Hull KR with the same team as they've got at the mo and if they don't win the title can we question their coaching qualifications? icon_biggrin.gif

As an expat over here who helps out at an NRL club, it really gets to me when people attribute a "super" tag to a coach, simply because they are australian. We continue to perpetuate the concept of them knowing more about the game.

For me, it's back to the thread now of seeing more youngsters taking a year off and chancing their arm over here.

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