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Back in the news on social media, questioning validity ? Magic weekend, blatant forward passes.
Modern day rules are the real problem, a player used to have to be behind the player with ball before he passed, thus the ball was/had to be passed in a backward line, thus easy for the Ref to judge & make a call !
Nowadays, when a flat pass is allowed, that becomes difficult to judge, then we start with momentum & how the players hands were ?
Go back to the original rules, less problems easier calls ! The Leeds match forward pass was ridiculas, the player passing passed 1& a half meters before reaching the 20m line, he passed & the ball not only went forward before touching the floor but it rolled last the line by at least a foot & was then picked up, forward pass by some distance, it was not a close call! Once again poor officiating & unfair to the defending team !
I suppose someone will try to defend modern rules etc, etc.

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what really is frustrating is the video ref cannot call a blatant forward pass when reviewing a try

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What a crap post total anti Leeds trolling, the lengths some will go with there agenda is laughable.

The rules are simple the ball must be passed backwards out of the gands back towards your own try line, where the ball travels in relation to the ground is totally irrelevant.

I know lets make every player stop running before passing turn around and pass it back, as some fans have no concept of how physics work.

Lets make them change the rules just because Leeds won a game i was baying fir them to loose. (Insert other teams fans like to hate Wigan usually and sometimes warrington)

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Team irrelevant, it's all teams, if the ball goes forward deliberately, it's a forward pass, if the ball then touches the ground it's a knock - on ! If this is to be discounted, there is NO such thing as a forward pass or a knock - on & change the rules, no more calls everyone gets on with it & all can do what they want, I would be in favour, because you can always score !

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Jesus H, like Jools said, watch the bleedin video.

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Momentum as Stevo would have said .
Let’s get grid lines on all pitches , problem solved .

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A couple of feet is momentum, but the fact the ball bounces a meter in front of it's intended recipient, who was travelling at the same speed as the passer and was 2 Meters behind him when the ball was passed, points to this being a forward pass, pure and simple.

London deserved to lose, because as usual they started both half's 10 minutes late, but Leeds can consider themselves very lucky if this decision either turns their season around or simply keeps them up......

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Quote: Him "Jesus H, like Jools said, watch the bleedin video.'"


To be fair Jools doesn’t understand Holiday Insurance .

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For me it's not about who deserves to win, it's about not having blatant bad decisions prospering, if players & coaches can be charged for bringing the game into disrepute, then to have blatant bad decisions on a consistent basis, also brings the game into disrepute.
There is another way to view forward pass, over running, ball drift momentum with an overhead camera for the odd occasion reference is needed ! A few frames & technology could determine once set - up via a computer to video screen.

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Quote: TrinTrin "For me it's not about who deserves to win, it's about not having blatant bad decisions prospering, if players & coaches can be charged for bringing the game into disrepute, then to have blatant bad decisions on a consistent basis, also brings the game into disrepute.
There is another way to view forward pass, over running, ball drift momentum with an overhead camera for the odd occasion reference is needed ! A few frames & technology could determine once set - up via a computer to video screen.'"

Except you’d need to install that system in every stadium and also have someone operating it. Significantly increasing the cost of match coverage. It may not even be possible to install it at all stadiums as the Skycam requires high fixed points to work from.

As for blatant bad decisions. I don’t think there are that many forward passes going unpunished. Certainly not many blatant ones.

There is, however, a blatant lack of understanding amongst many RL fans over what a forward pass actually is and the consequences of having a sport where a forward pass is judged relative to the ground, something which a lot of vocal RL fans proclaim should happen.

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Nothing expensive about a drone sending video to a computer with software picking up an actual incident & flagging up for a video ref to use, as you have declared, there arnt that many so advice to refs ear piece would be low !
There seems to be always a reason why you cannot, never a reason why you can !
However, for the few reasons you say it doesn't happen that often, then change the rule to " forward pass allowed " equal to both sides, no arguments, easy to score, entertainment higher, no more bad decisions of excuses !

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Quote: TrinTrin "Nothing expensive about a drone sending video to a computer with software picking up an actual incident & flagging up for a video ref to use, as you have declared, there arnt that many so advice to refs ear piece would be low !
There seems to be always a reason why you cannot, never a reason why you can !
However, for the few reasons you say it doesn't happen that often, then change the rule to " forward pass allowed " equal to both sides, no arguments, easy to score, entertainment higher, no more bad decisions of excuses !'"


Do you really think that a drone would be in the correct position to pick up any contentious forward pass.
As you know, a pass can look blatantly forward when viewed for a certain angle and legitimate when viewed from a different position.

Your solution sounds quite simple and not too expensive to implement but, the reality is rather different.

We could ask the VR to adjudicate on forward pass calls, which would clear up some of them but there would still be plenty left for us to "argue" over, just as there are with try/no try calls.

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