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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



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Quote: "Vikings Sports Foundation Ltd, Halton WA8, failed to pay £1,026.47 to 1 worker, with average arrears of £1,026.47 per worker
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Further examples of the fine standards of club management across RL although in fairness, a few other sports clubs also named and shamed for underpaying staff - Sale Sharks, Bristol City, Durham CC, Dundee Utd, Northampton Town, Doncaster Rovers, Newcastle Falcons, Derbyshire CC and Sussex CC.

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Tbh they probably aren’t alone and it’s unfair to single out those two clubs. That said if they aren’t paying the minimum they should be ashamed of themselves.

Before they say it yes bradford’s unpaid credittors have a right to be ed off too.

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So it’s not unfair to single out those clubs.

Personally I think it’s more unfair 25 workers haven’t been paid at least the minimum wage, than it is the clubs have been named.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "So it’s not unfair to single out those clubs.

Personally I think it’s more unfair 25 workers haven’t been paid at least the minimum wage, than it is the clubs have been named.'"


It’s not unfair to name and shame them but i bet they aren’t alone

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "It’s not unfair to name and shame them but i bet they aren’t alone'"

"Whataboutism" isn't really the point here. And "naming and shaming" employers is very rarely HMRC's first resort.

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well this country is now reaping what it sowed,
when you could turn to a friend a UNION that looked after you and had your interests at heart we now have a country that's back to the early 1900s when employers can hold you to ransom.

I fair bet there will be loads that will say unions only brought about disruptive service but one day it will effect you and you have no one to turn to.

rip off Britain is just getting greedier and while you have few pounds in your bank balance and it doesn't effect you, you will only turn a blind eye to the situation that's out there and still use all the companies that have been mentioned unless you have a conscious

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Quote: snowie "well this country is now reaping what it sowed,
when you could turn to a friend a UNION that looked after you and had your interests at heart we now have a country that's back to the early 1900s when employers can hold you to ransom.

I fair bet there will be loads that will say unions only brought about disruptive service but one day it will effect you and you have no one to turn to.

rip off Britain is just getting greedier and while you have few pounds in your bank balance and it doesn't effect you, you will only turn a blind eye to the situation that's out there and still use all the companies that have been mentioned unless you have a conscious'"

said a pensioner socialist, UNIONS do NOTHING other than collect a fee and stand in the way of progress. Ask yourself, why is UNISON based in BRAND NEW offices near Euston, for the "good of the workers", why did Scargill kill the mining industry, Bob Crow ruined the Railways... the list is endless (comrade)

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Quote: snowie "well this country is now reaping what it sowed,
when you could turn to a friend a UNION that looked after you and had your interests at heart we now have a country that's back to the early 1900s when employers can hold you to ransom.

I fair bet there will be loads that will say unions only brought about disruptive service but one day it will effect you and you have no one to turn to.

rip off Britain is just getting greedier and while you have few pounds in your bank balance and it doesn't effect you, you will only turn a blind eye to the situation that's out there and still use all the companies that have been mentioned unless you have a conscious'"


Sad, but true Snowie. Thatcher’s legacy is a nation of people who no longer care about anyone else but themselves.

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Quote: Leigh_Manning "said a pensioner socialist, UNIONS do NOTHING other than collect a fee and stand in the way of progress. Ask yourself, why is UNISON based in BRAND NEW offices near Euston, for the "good of the workers", why did Scargill kill the mining industry, Bob Crow ruined the Railways... the list is endless (comrade)'"

I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week

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I'd be wary of reading much into this without the detail. It's highly unlikely these clubs will have been paying below minimum wage in terms of the hourly pay. Most companies are on top of that.

It's more likely to do with rounding clocking in/out times and the joke of a change in interpretation of what constitutes a uniform (so what they said was ok last year, this year isn't but they never advised anyone of the change).

The minimum wage is probably too low in my view but the way HMRC have policed it this last 12 months has the clear hallmark of a money making exercise.

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Quote: Someday "I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week'"

totally untrue, but it is your opinion.

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Utterly shambolic and embarassing

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Quote: bramleyrhino ""Whataboutism" isn't really the point here. And "naming and shaming" employers is very rarely HMRC's first resort.'"



I can’t see how what I said was whataboutism. I wasn’t making excuses just saying I doubt they are alone. Sadly.

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The trade union movement are still an important part of working life for us all.

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Quote: Someday "I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week'"


Absolutely correct and that's my opinion

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