FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Which Englishman has great dummy, sidestep and acceleration? |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6809 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2023 | Jan 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
18302_1567366773.png [b:1crbsr9w] Toulouse for Championship in 2017, Super League in 2021!
Avignon for Championship in 2021, Super League in 2022! [/b:1crbsr9w]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18302.png |
|
| Ability to sidestep with acceleration is the most prized attacking skill in rugby league. When combined with the dummy pass it can be a game changing talent.
New Zealand has Shaun Johnson with his magical step off either foot and blisteringly fast acceleration. He combines this with the dummy pass to great effect. He is the king of the solo dancers. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is barely behind Johnson, and these two may be the kings of stepping penetration, though RTS doesn't quite have Johnson's dummy.
Australia has Blake Austin at Canberra, who is also not far behind Shaun Johnson in stepping, acceleration, and dummy skills. He will be Australia's No 6 within three years. Incumbent No 6 Johnathan Thurston has a decent step but not as wide as Johnson's or Austin's, and he doesn't have the acceleration. Thurston relies a lot on the dummy plus the sidestep to break the defensive line. Jacob Miller with Wakefield has a good sidestep but is nowhere near as fast in acceleration as Johnson.
Who does England have to do the dance? Only Samuel Tomkins if I am not mistaken but he lacks the acceleration of Shaun Johnson. Gareth Widdop has a decent dummy and a small sidestep but
lacks the acceleration of Johnson. Matthew Smith is weak in all these skills, which is why he is not a great halfback.
Does the dearth of great sidesteppers with great acceleration perhaps explain why the English halves and outside backs are not as feared in attack as New Zealand's?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 505 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jul 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| You might have heard of Kallum Watkins?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6809 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2023 | Jan 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
18302_1567366773.png [b:1crbsr9w] Toulouse for Championship in 2017, Super League in 2021!
Avignon for Championship in 2021, Super League in 2022! [/b:1crbsr9w]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18302.png |
|
| Quote: Big Jim Slade "You might have heard of Kallum Watkins?'"
Thanks for the contribution, Big Jim. In fact I have not only heard of Kallum Watkins, but I have also seen him play. But he is nowhere near as effective as the others whom I have named. Why is that? Is it that his sidestep is not as huge as Johnson and Austin's. Or is it that his acceleration is not as rapid as theirs and Tuivasa-Shecks? Granted Watkins is fast over a distance, but acceleration a different matter. Michael Jennings has one of the best accelerations in the game, plus a decent sidestep and swerve.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 9721 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
icons077e_files/5885-54zedonite-msnicons.jpg regards
and ENJOY your sport
Leaguefan
"The Public wants what the Public gets" - Paul Weller:icons077e_files/5885-54zedonite-msnicons.jpg |
|
| Most SL clubs 1/2 backs do not qualify to play for England and those that do are not international standard. It's been this way for years.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4786 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
73327_1685730441.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73327.jpg |
|
| Probably still Rob Burrow as much as anyone.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7649 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
17555_1637667680.png Wigan RLFC:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17555.png |
|
| George Williams has a decent step & definitely has the acceleration.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5035 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2021 | Oct 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44747_1304271884.png :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44747.png |
|
| Rangi Chase
Seriously though, Ryan Brierley has all 3. One of the many, many reasons to hate Ian Millward is not keeping him on at Cas.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1301 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Sep 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
71118_1386601324.jpg In Grix, We Trust
'LET ONLY THOSE WHO ENTER DO SO WITH PRIDE AND A DETERMINATION TO UPHOLD THE FINE TRADITION OF THE CLUB' - THRUM HALL DRESSING ROOM PLAQUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_71118.jpg |
|
| Gareth Widdop
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 813 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2015 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
70254_1408454058.png //www.shawxsharks.com/
In my opinion the best amateur club in the world
Reaching forward since 1947:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_70254.png |
|
| Quote: thefaxfanman "Gareth Widdop'"
Agree with that and also Ryan Brierley at Leigh is just electric in my opinion
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 4148 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
125_1389554653.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_125.gif |
|
| Austin uses his strength
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3813 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Keiran Dixon has the best acceleration of any English player. Would love to see him trained up to be a half-back, because (size, tackling) he'll never be an international standard fullback.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 4712 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2021 | May 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1124_1283371467.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1124.gif |
|
| Matty Russell. Although he can't pass. At all.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1426 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2022 | Sep 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Hampshire at Wigan. Everyone else can see it except the coach.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 17146 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
755_1290430740.jpg “At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_755.jpg |
|
| Danny Brough, though he keeps spitting out the dummy.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 16415 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2020 | Nov 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
3081_1293915727.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3081.jpg |
|
| Chris Hill.
|
|
|
|
|
|