Briscoe
Smith
Eastmond
Shenton
Hall
Myler
Tomkins
Morley
Roby
Graham
Peacock
Ellis
Sinfield

McGuire/Carvell
Crabtree
Westwood
Burgess

Thats what I would think it would be judging by todays performance, we played alot better with Tom Briscoe off the field and looked alot stronger.

To be fair to Tom Briscoe I don't think that was anything to do with him being off the pitch.

1 Briscoe
2 Smith
3 Shenton
4 Eastmond
5 Hall
6 Tomkins
7 Myler
8 Graham
9 Roby
10 Peacock
11 Ellis
12 Burgess
13 Sinfield

14 Morley
15 Westwood
16 Crabtree
17 Carvell

Agree. Our fringe right hand side defence seem to be free from blame now!

Are you serious? Played better with him off the pitch? In attack he didn't see no ball and the only time he touched it was from bringing it out from his own 20. In defence he did nothing wrong, it was Smith and McGuire who had shockers yet TS for some bizzare reason decided to blame it on Briscoe!

briscoe
smith
eastmond
shenton
hall
sinfield
tompkins
graham
roby
morley
ellis
peacock
burgess

mcguire
crabtree
westwood
myler

Briscoe
Smith
Eastmond
Shenton
Hall
Tomkins
Myler
Burgess
Roby
Morley
Peacock
Ellis
Sinfield

Bench: Graham, Westwood, Crabtree, McGuire.

Put Graham to the bench as I felt he's looked a bit jaded during this game. Bring him on after 20 mins when the NZ pack are tiring and see if he can get us some momentum.

I'd try to get as many old boys as possible back into the back-line. Whichever combination of today's players we have if NZ or Oz get 50% possession we'll not be able to defens. To pretend otherwise is burying heads in the sand. Is Pryce fit, for example?

To blame Tom Briscoe for Lee Smiths defensive brain farts is pure denial.

Smith was out of position or too soft in the collision on about 5 occasions in the first half with three of those costing 16 points in total.

He was out of position on at least two occasions in the second half and although we did'nt concede points that was due to cover from his team mates and placed extra work for his team.

He will get ruthlesly targeted by NZ if he's in the team next week. He should be nowhere near the squad.

McGuire has played himself out of the reckoning and will need to go back to Leeds and prove himself all over again.

6. Tomkins
7. Eastmond

Next week.

As for Sinfield, I think he's a superb domestic player, he looks good against 'B' Class international opposition but is out of his depth against Aus & NZ.

Unfortunately T Smith has left himself and England with little option in the field kicking stakes and so he may get another run against NZ next week. To be fair ro him he had a better second half but his control and kicking game in the first 40mins were very poor and a part of the reason we were so far behind at HT.

Shenton was very good in defence but was still starved of the ball although he did do well with the few chances he did get.

The pack took their toll on the Ausies with Crabtree exceeding all expectations.

I'd have Tomkins and Eastmond in the halves with Sinfield at 9 (thought he showed some good touches there in the 2nd half)

Briscoe
fox
smith
shenton
hall
tompkins
eastmond
graham
roby
peacock
burgess
ellis
sinfield

crabtree
morley
Westwood
myler

Briscoe
Briscoe
Eastmond
Shenton
Hall
Tomkins
Myler
Morley
Roby
Graham
Peacock
Ellis
Sinfield

Burgess
Crabtree
Carvell
Moore

Very young backline but its our best choice from the squad we've got IMO, would have been better to have some experience in the backs like Gleeson/Senior, even L.Pryce on the wing, but thats Tony Smiths choice. McGuire and Smith were just terrible today, McGuire probably the worst performance I have seen in an England shirt and there have been plenty.

*waits for the first person to drop Shenton*

I'm sure people were saying Smith was a much better option in the centres

S.Briscoe
Smith
Ellis
Shenton
Hall
Tomkins
Eastmond
Morley
Roby
Graham
Peacock
Westwood
Sinfield

Crabtree
Burgess
Carvell
Maguire

Eastmond, Crabtree and Westwood really lifted the team

Would be happy with alternatives to Maguire who was terrible today.

Says a lot when his substitution gained a big cheer

Disagree about Sinfield. Play him out of position at your peril. Not quick enough for a scooting hooker.

So? scooting hookers are a cheap gimmick and only work with a quick PTB, what England needs is someone who can control the game from dummy half, not someone who can't pass but can run a bit.