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| Maybe they could have a quota for Fijians, Tongans and PNGians too to stop them being poached from their nation?
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| yeah i wonder if the player contracts asks them to elect a nation?...if not why not
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| I don't normally have time for that idiot League Freak, but he did make a couple of decent comments regarding Origin selection [size(he was ranting about some Meninga article saying the ARL is out to get Queensland, the only reason I ended up on his sorry site)[/size.
Quote: League Freak "...if this was the case the ARL would have enforced State Of Origin rules that mean New South Wales born, bred and qualified Greg Inglis couldn't play for Queensland. That Israel Folau, who was born and raised in Sydney, could not play for Queensland.
Petero Civoniceva, Craig Smith, Adrian Lam, Brad Thorn, Tonie Carroll, Lote Tuqiri....hell, none of them were even born in Australia!'"
The ockers have long made a mockery of representative player qualification. Anyone who thinks the Home Nations argument is a sham should take a look at SoO and the Kangaroos.
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| the rule that stipulates that to play Origin you have to be eligible for australia is absolutely strangling the growth of the game....theres dozens & dozens of players who while good enough to gain the odd origin selection but a million miles away from ever getting a kangaroos jersey...
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| Quote: Cronus "I don't normally have time for that idiot League Freak, but he did make a couple of decent comments regarding Origin selection [size(he was ranting about some Meninga article saying the ARL is out to get Queensland, the only reason I ended up on his sorry site)[/size.
The ockers have long made a mockery of representative player qualification. Anyone who thinks the Home Nations argument is a sham should take a look at SoO and the Kangaroos.'"
I'm sorry, but many of these 'islander' players who represent the Kangaroos may have been born overseas however immigrated to Australia as kids. The vast majority of them learnt their trade in junior Australian clubs and trained by NRL clubs junior set ups. They are Australian citizens! Stop judging them on their skin colour, name or heritage! Why don't they have the right to play for the Kangaroos? Its not as if the ARL head of on scouting missions to find these kids and tear them away from their home lands!
Unfortunately playing for the Kangaroos is going to bring greater rewards to them then playing for their place of heritage or birth. The only way that you are going to get them playing for the places of birth or heritage is through regular test footy.
Its not like the situations you find with the RFU (and ECB) where players are turning their back on home nations after a few years of playing professionally in another country.
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| Quote: hindyscrack "Stop judging them on their skin colour, name or heritage!'"
Wind your neck in. I simply repeated something LF had posted which hit home regarding SoO selection. As for the Kangaroos - well, of course they have the right to play for them according to the existing RLIF rules & regs. But that doesn't mean everyone has to agree - I for one would rather see some of the Pacific Islanders encouraged to represent and strengthen their nation of birth where possible. Australia already has a massive pool of players to choose from and yet they still dangle SoO and Kangaroo selection in front of Pacific Islanders to poach their talent.
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| Quote: hindyscrack "
Unfortunately playing for the NSW or QLD is going to bring greater rewards to them then playing for their place of heritage or birth.
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| Good idea
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| Quote: hindyscrack "I'm sorry, but many of these 'islander' players who represent the Kangaroos may have been born overseas however immigrated to Australia as kids. The vast majority of them learnt their trade in junior Australian clubs and trained by NRL clubs junior set ups. They are Australian citizens! Stop judging them on their skin colour, name or heritage! Why don't they have the right to play for the Kangaroos? Its not as if the ARL head of on scouting missions to find these kids and tear them away from their home lands!'" It does seem pretty hypocritical for the ARL to be arguing that a born and raised Fijian like Akuila Uate should be able to represent NSW because he has elected to describe himself now as an Australian, but Greg Inglis shouldnt be able to elect to describe himself as a Queenslander.
Quote: hindyscrack "Unfortunately playing for the Kangaroos is going to bring greater rewards to them then playing for their place of heritage or birth. The only way that you are going to get them playing for the places of birth or heritage is through regular test footy.
'" I couldnt agree more.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It does seem pretty hypocritical for the ARL to be arguing that a born and raised Fijian like Akuila Uate should be able to represent NSW because he has elected to describe himself now as an Australian, but Greg Inglis shouldnt be able to elect to describe himself as a Queenslander.
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i did just actually stand up and clap!!!
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| Quote: hindyscrack "They are Australian citizens! '"
To be fair hindy, you don't actually know they are. The requirement is that you only have to be a resident, and they all were.
The Willie Mason episode highlighted that several years ago.
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www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6098710453
should add to value of TV rights and also help expand game in NZ as well with auckland vs the rest
hopefully a precursor to a 2nd NZ NRL side
played on a stand alone weekend as well so all attention will be on it
this will be an excellent move by the nrl
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www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6098710453
should add to value of TV rights and also help expand game in NZ as well with auckland vs the rest
hopefully a precursor to a 2nd NZ NRL side
played on a stand alone weekend as well so all attention will be on it
this will be an excellent move by the nrl
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"I wouldn't call it a revolution. I'd call it an evolution. We are not going to damage the integrity of the sport.
and proposal for more breaks to increase TV revenue
either 15 second ads during game, longer half time of 2 mins or water break after 20 mins
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| Oooh look, another NRL thread on the VT
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