Just about perfected the art of playing 4/5 games a season and being banned for 20

Game won, nearly final whistle and he proves he is the stupidest player in the game.

There really needs to be some words said to the Saints players soon. How much longer can they let the poor tackling techniques and ill discipline go on?

If they really are the best team in the world, they should be able to tackle legally and still win.

I get that they play an aggressive style, and try and intimidate other teams, but it clearly is not working anymore. Time to adapt and move on.

Absolutely, and something I've said a few times.

There is no conspiracy. They play the game as aggressive as possible and right on the brink of the rules. This season they're getting it totally wrong (they did a few times last season too) and need to change their style otherwise the sin bins and bans will keep coming.

Interestingly, Wigan are a team of thugs and yet nobody has the wrap sheet that Knowles and indeed Matty Lees have. There's a good chance they beat the whole Wigan team on their own in terms of appearances in front of the MRP.

Yes, gross stupidity. What is he thinking!

A bog standad grade B, despite the mass hysteria. Obviously the context of it was beyond stupid, with there being seconds to go in a game we'd already won and him being back from a ban.

Interesting though, that's the first genuine thing you can actually pin on Knowles. All his previous bans have been utter nonsense.

Talking of bans, it'll be interesting to see what they give the Halifax player for the awful late hit on Lomax. Worse than any of the Saints bans for late hits, very high and required a HIA because the Doctor thought it was a bad one. Of course, with it not being a St Helens player, the officials didn't penalise it.

Oh will you just stop, it’s getting beyond boring listening to you bleat about hard done by you are.

I agree but its what he thinks make him relevant

Yeh and we circle the Sun but we don’t keep going on about it

this thread title needs renaming Sadders,

Saints squad, can they stop stopping themselves?

Or maybe-Can Saints fans stop crying !