FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Super league is boring
35 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1599No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
46920_1473009033.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_46920.jpg



Just be thankful you can watch the Australian league and the State of Origin. Without that we'd all be snookered.

Super league is dead and so is the challenge cup.

I'd suggest to any young, ambitious rugby league player in this country to set out for down under.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4685No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13804.jpg
"I hope we get to the bottom of the answer":13804.jpg



Its a salary capped sport in terms of playing squad but I'd be interested to see a breakdown of staff numbers and spend on areas outside the salary cap.
I suspect you'll see those that have/spend the most win the most.

Clearly using those resources effectively counts for a lot but ultimately you have to have the resources in the first place to consistently challenge.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12637
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
33809_1522680904.png
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

Moderator


Quote: scarrie "Its a salary capped sport in terms of playing squad but I'd be interested to see a breakdown of staff numbers and spend on areas outside the salary cap.
I suspect you'll see those that have/spend the most win the most.

Clearly using those resources effectively counts for a lot but ultimately you have to have the resources in the first place to consistently challenge.'"


Yeah, you don’t see the ‘no coincidence’ line trotted out so much on that point!

I don’t mind the pay-to-win model or the self-mythologising bs from players, fans and management at the successful clubs. I’m sure it has always been like that, to some degree. I do get a bit frustrated when fans of other less wealthy clubs lap it up, but everybody is entitled to an opinion.

I have been looking at what Saints are and and what the current team is doing, and I don’t want to undercredit them. It is very, very impressive.

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: scarrie "Its a salary capped sport in terms of playing squad but I'd be interested to see a breakdown of staff numbers and spend on areas outside the salary cap.
I suspect you'll see those that have/spend the most win the most.

Clearly using those resources effectively counts for a lot but ultimately you have to have the resources in the first place to consistently challenge.'"


and where do those resources come from? sponsorship, which is easier to get when your team is winning. a self fullfilling prophesy, and its not just in RL.

Another interesting one - the sky money may have been divvied up equally but the exposure certainly is not.
Leeds has been on tv in all but one of their rounds so far this season. Cant imagine their marketing department needed to do much to sell sponsorship early in the season knowing that - whereas likes of salford / hudds / wakey marketing team will have had to do a lot more.

RankPostsTeam
International Star931No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
65584_1327407973.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_65584.jpg



Not much more interesting in the championship either. We are all waiting for Fev to go up and Toulouse to come back down to us so they can compete with Leigh for who gets to replace Fev when they come back down.

Mind you, the way Fev are patting themselves on the back they might be the team to give the mighty Saints a real test.

Joking aside, it just shows how mix matched the sport is at the moment. I don’t really see a plan to address it but these things come in cycles. How many did saints ‘lose in a row’ to now ‘win in a row?’

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Quote: Trainman "No one can argue that St Helens aren’t the dominant side in the competition at present. It won’t last forever though and someone else will take over. The sport goes through cycles.

The aim for the rest of the clubs should be at first match, then surpass St Helens. The way to do that is through youth development. It’s no coincidence the last 16 winners have been Leeds, St Helens and Wigan. The best 3 academies in the game. The sooner the rest of the clubs get their development up to the standards of those three the sooner we will see a different name on the trophy.'"


Saints have always had good youth development like a few other clubs in Leeds and Wigan the problem has always been the transition of these young players into Superleague.
The last couple of seasons the Saints have got this process right, don't forget we let go high earners Theo Fages and Laclan Coote and replaced them with 2 academy players in Dodd and Welsby. Wingfield and Bennison are also getting game time and looking comfortable in the team.

35 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
35 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.1865234375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
12m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2413
17m
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
24m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
118
27m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Exeter Rhino
10074
30m
Leigh it is
Warrior Wing
61
41m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
44m
BORED The Band Name Game
Cokey
62563
Recent
Squad 2024
faxcar
735
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
4031
Recent
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
UllFC
3305
1m
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2397
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40170
1m
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
1m
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
2m
Ground Improvements
imwakefieldt
93
3m
Film game
Boss Hog
4031
3m
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
6
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
MorePlaymake
5
TODAY
Guest appearance
Kick and cha
1
TODAY
Squad for HKR
matt_wire
14
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
6
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Wigan Bull
13
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Kevin Turvey
10
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Mr Snoodle
8
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
Butcher
7
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
Chris71
38
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
karetaker
59
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
TODAY
Leigh it is
Warrior Wing
61
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
Cokey
2
TODAY
Must do better
Wires71
29
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
626
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
664
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1119
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1373
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1120
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1534
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1247
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1476
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1621
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1892
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1586
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1656
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1842
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1661
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2110