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Proof that Salford, St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Crusaders and St Helens were warned about their stadia ahead of licensing in 2009.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 162212.stm
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https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -to-an-end
"In 2009, they were granted planning permission for a stadium on the site of an old colliery with the aim of moving in for the 2010 season, but the project was abandoned as no money could be found to fund the project.
This came after the RFL threatened five Super League clubs – Castleford, Celtic Crusaders, Salford, St Helens and Wakefield – that they risked losing their licences if they didn’t move forward with new stadium plans.
"St Helens would move to their new Langtree Park stadium home in 2012, the same year Salford moved in to the new AJ Bell Stadium, while Crusaders ceased to exist at the end of the 2011 season."
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https "Showcasing Super League in high quality stadium facilities remains a key objective," he said
In July 2009, the RFL was reported to have warned Salford City Reds, Castleford Tigers and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, of which none had started construction on a new stadium, that progress must be made in order to avoid jeopardising their chances of obtaining a second Super League licence. St Helens RLFC and Celtic Crusaders (later Crusaders Rugby League) were also warned, but were reported to have a likely chance of having a new stadium by 2012." |
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Proof that Salford, St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Crusaders and St Helens were warned about their stadia ahead of licensing in 2009.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 162212.stm
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https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -to-an-end
"In 2009, they were granted planning permission for a stadium on the site of an old colliery with the aim of moving in for the 2010 season, but the project was abandoned as no money could be found to fund the project.
This came after the RFL threatened five Super League clubs – Castleford, Celtic Crusaders, Salford, St Helens and Wakefield – that they risked losing their licences if they didn’t move forward with new stadium plans.
"St Helens would move to their new Langtree Park stadium home in 2012, the same year Salford moved in to the new AJ Bell Stadium, while Crusaders ceased to exist at the end of the 2011 season."
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https "Showcasing Super League in high quality stadium facilities remains a key objective," he said
In July 2009, the RFL was reported to have warned Salford City Reds, Castleford Tigers and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, of which none had started construction on a new stadium, that progress must be made in order to avoid jeopardising their chances of obtaining a second Super League licence. St Helens RLFC and Celtic Crusaders (later Crusaders Rugby League) were also warned, but were reported to have a likely chance of having a new stadium by 2012." | |
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I was at a meeting in 1999 that tasker said that to warrington when he was at the rfl/sl
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So according to the first link Salford did have a choice to up grade the willows,
"We felt it was appropriate to remind all the clubs of their commitment to upgrade their current facility or move to a new stadium," the RFL said.
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| Quote snowie="snowie"So according to the first link Salford did have a choice to up grade the willows,
"We felt it was appropriate to remind all the clubs of their commitment to upgrade their current facility or move to a new stadium," the RFL said.'"
I'm pretty sure redeveloping The Willows was never an option for Salford because the area surrounding the ground was so built up with housing etc.
Reds89 kindly helped out with the licensing stuff so maybe he can dig out something else that will back me up on this.   | | |
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Quote reds89="reds89"Proof that Salford, St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Crusaders and St Helens were warned about their stadia ahead of licensing in 2009.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 162212.stm
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https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -to-an-end
"In 2009, they were granted planning permission for a stadium on the site of an old colliery with the aim of moving in for the 2010 season, but the project was abandoned as no money could be found to fund the project.
This came after the RFL threatened five Super League clubs – Castleford, Celtic Crusaders, Salford, St Helens and Wakefield – that they risked losing their licences if they didn’t move forward with new stadium plans.
"St Helens would move to their new Langtree Park stadium home in 2012, the same year Salford moved in to the new AJ Bell Stadium, while Crusaders ceased to exist at the end of the 2011 season."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%8 ... ommitments
"Talking about the progress of some clubs towards fulfilling their commitments to either upgrade their stadium facilities and move to new ones during the 2009–11 three year licence period, Gary Tasker warned of "the potential implications [of any failure to do so may have on their next application. Clubs need to be aware that we are raising the bar for the next licence period."[4 "Showcasing Super League in high quality stadium facilities remains a key objective," he said
In July 2009, the RFL was reported to have warned Salford City Reds, Castleford Tigers and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, of which none had started construction on a new stadium, that progress must be made in order to avoid jeopardising their chances of obtaining a second Super League licence. St Helens RLFC and Celtic Crusaders (later Crusaders Rugby League) were also warned, but were reported to have a likely chance of having a new stadium by 2012."'"
Two interpretive articles by a journalist and Wikipedia!
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Quote reds89="reds89"Proof that Salford, St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Crusaders and St Helens were warned about their stadia ahead of licensing in 2009.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 162212.stm
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https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -to-an-end
"In 2009, they were granted planning permission for a stadium on the site of an old colliery with the aim of moving in for the 2010 season, but the project was abandoned as no money could be found to fund the project.
This came after the RFL threatened five Super League clubs – Castleford, Celtic Crusaders, Salford, St Helens and Wakefield – that they risked losing their licences if they didn’t move forward with new stadium plans.
"St Helens would move to their new Langtree Park stadium home in 2012, the same year Salford moved in to the new AJ Bell Stadium, while Crusaders ceased to exist at the end of the 2011 season."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%8 ... ommitments
"Talking about the progress of some clubs towards fulfilling their commitments to either upgrade their stadium facilities and move to new ones during the 2009–11 three year licence period, Gary Tasker warned of "the potential implications [of any failure to do so may have on their next application. Clubs need to be aware that we are raising the bar for the next licence period."[4 "Showcasing Super League in high quality stadium facilities remains a key objective," he said
In July 2009, the RFL was reported to have warned Salford City Reds, Castleford Tigers and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, of which none had started construction on a new stadium, that progress must be made in order to avoid jeopardising their chances of obtaining a second Super League licence. St Helens RLFC and Celtic Crusaders (later Crusaders Rugby League) were also warned, but were reported to have a likely chance of having a new stadium by 2012."'"
Two interpretive articles by a journalist and Wikipedia!
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... ders-rugby
More proof. Not sure what else there is I can post as all articles are interpretive, however, they are all saying the same thing.
In regards to the Willows being redeveloped, I can't find any articles proving it but I do know that it was not possible due to the surrounding houses backing onto the stands and lack of car parking around.
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More proof. Not sure what else there is I can post as all articles are interpretive, however, they are all saying the same thing.
In regards to the Willows being redeveloped, I can't find any articles proving it but I do know that it was not possible due to the surrounding houses backing onto the stands and lack of car parking around.
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Again, nowhere is there evidence of an RFL statement, saying that clubs ABC will be out of SL, if XYZ doesn't happen.
Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.
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Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.'"
All it is Salford saw the chance of a new shiny stadium but the fans didn't like the idea and failed to support them, now it a noose around they neck as the cost will be too much, hope there's a lesson to learn from it | | | |
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Quote dboy="dboy"Again, nowhere is there evidence of an RFL statement, saying that clubs ABC will be out of SL, if XYZ doesn't happen.
Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.'"
It was the required criteria to gain a License for Super League.Grading was required with a points system.
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Quote dboy="dboy"Again, nowhere is there evidence of an RFL statement, saying that clubs ABC will be out of SL, if XYZ doesn't happen.
Just a loose interpretation of what "might" happen; an empty threat at best.
The RFL never said any club would be out if they didn't get a new ground. That's the absolute fact of the matter.'"
It was the required criteria to gain a License for Super League.Grading was required with a points system.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 138760.stm
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