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| Quote Pumpetypump="Pumpetypump"I've followed Bradford for 35 years or so and am just as mystified by the practicalities of returning to Odsal as anyone else. I think it's fair to say we are rather cynical about big Nigel generally, particularly his historical involvement in Odsal sagas, and his role in turning down wealthy groups of people who bid for the club. Appointing friendly and compliant people with no money has clearly been a deliberate choice, it's just we are yet to understand why. You might cynically wonder if he's been central to a grand plan that has yet to reach fruition.
I'm not emotionally torn when it comes to Odsal anymore. I have had so many magical moments there but I've had enough of the place. It financially cripples the club I love, and it's entirely unacceptable for the 21st century. You have to invest hundreds of thousands to simply maintain it, and millions to give it the comforts people should expect to find. Stock cars putting in a lick of paint and a few barriers is not addressing the completely unsustainable state of the place. It's all dispiriting and I don't have any answers.'"
Why aren't you sharing with Bradford PA, as was once mooted?
As I remember, the ground is more central than Odsal and surely offers a sustainable future in Bradford.
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| Bradford PA is too small capacity wise and no scope for any extension even including temporary stands.
Odsal isn't fit for purpose in the 21st century, a bit like Belle Vue. It's also unaffordable - without the upkeep being paid for by someone else. When the club has had to pay for that itself it's gone to the wall or gone very close. That was during periods when motorsport was still taking place and contributing funds too. Not sure what planet Nigel is on.
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| Quote davids="davids"Why aren't you sharing with Bradford PA, as was once mooted?
As I remember, the ground is more central than Odsal and surely offers a sustainable future in Bradford.'"
BPA are our sister club in many respect, and we have far more historical ties than we do with Bradford City so I'd be happy to share with them. The problem is that although they've done a good job with the Horsfall stadium (and we play our Academy and Women's games there) it's very small (circa 3k) so would also need a lot of investment to make it a forever home. I think we looked into getting it up to 5k before choosing to go to Dewsbury but it was prohibitively expensive.
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye" Not sure what planet Nigel is on.'"
If you had a fiver would you go for A. unhinged, or B. grand plan?
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"No there aren't, just a clear statement from Wood that they can run solvent in Superleague.
Good lord man your own club can do it in an equally ramshackle stadium on far lower crowds than Bulls
There's no need to be mean and negative all the time.'"
Nothing "mean and negative" at all, just plain simple fact.
IF someone is prepared to throw (very) serious money at Odsal, it "could" be a runner but, for a club in Bradford's current position, there seems very little evidence of this, other then some optimistic words from a bloke with a vested interest.
Odsal has NOTHING to do with Trinity so, maybe, for a change, keep on topic.
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"No there aren't, just a clear statement from Wood that they can run solvent in Superleague.
Good lord man your own club can do it in an equally ramshackle stadium on far lower crowds than Bulls
There's no need to be mean and negative all the time.'"
Do what?
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"Interesting piece in the leaguer today.
Nigel Wood is keen to get back to Odsal, but the club don't have the money to pay for all the various costs of Odsal.
However he states that if the club were to get into Superleague and generate an income of £5 million a year [i"which it was"[/i last time they were in Superleague then spending 10% of that on making sure the ground is safe to use and remains so year on year [i"Is not unreasonable"[/i......
How Lenegan may set up his 2x10 Superleague in 2022, if he can get it through, could easily involve hoisting Bradford back into Superleague back in Odsal, and the quid pro quo for other clubs would be the likelyhood that large numbers of Bulls fans will get on board with such a revival, and put big money through the gates of fellow clubs...........'"
That IF again. IF this IF that. The biggest word in the world
I would love to see them back in playing at Odsal, but they have a lot of money to find before that happens
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| Quote Huddersfield1895="Huddersfield1895"That IF again. IF this IF that. The biggest word in the world
I would love to see them back in playing at Odsal, but they have a lot of money to find before that happens'"
Not according to Wood. He's the boss and he's the accountant and he states on a Superleague size turnover they can operate from Odsal.
Yes of course this is very questionable indeed as not so long ago Bradford were planning stock car and bike racing to make the business plan stack up.
So there's certainly a "credibility gap" in this statement. The question is why make such a statement?
Maybe he's found that rich owner  Or maybe the ground requirements have been somehow relaxed? One thing about those requirements was posters questioning what was it that actually made Odsal "unsafe" for Superleague?? Nobody knew?
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"Not according to Wood. He's the boss and he's the accountant and he states on a Superleague size turnover they can operate from Odsal.
Yes of course this is very questionable indeed as not so long ago Bradford were planning stock car and bike racing to make the business plan stack up.
So there's certainly a "credibility gap" in this statement. The question is why make such a statement?
Maybe he's found that rich owner
Or maybe the ground requirements have been somehow relaxed? One thing about those requirements was posters questioning what was it that actually made Odsal "unsafe" for Superleague?? Nobody knew?'"
Not only does nobody know the costs but if Bradford Bulls + some stock car enthusiasts + RFL + Bradford Council have found the money then rest assured it wasn't a lot. The previous owner moved the club to Dewsbury owing to 'costs' just before he left for New Zealand and never came back. This is the same bloke who couldn't guarantee the funds for a bank account facility when the RFL gave him control of the club.
I wouldn't trust Wood if he told me the time but I suspect he's probably right on this. The people who couldn't afford the upkeep on Odsal couldn't afford a sandwich. There's never been any numbers apart from something to do with a connection to a deep sewer some years ago that ran into 6 figures.
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs" The people who couldn't afford the upkeep on Odsal couldn't afford a sandwich. '"
Like the man who owned one restaurant that the RFL chose? Or the guy that sold kids beds that the RFL chose? (Now insolvent) Or the guy that had a small security company that the RFL chose? (now insolvent) or the guys from New Zealand with no money that they chose?
I'm just thankful that we've been on the end of such favouritism as many still point out. Thank goodness they never allowed Koukash, the millionaire owners of Wasps or any of the other interested parties with money to take over. It would have been a nightmare.
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| Tubbs Wood was hardly a success in Halifax and this £5m that he's taking ten percent from to run Odsal is the 5m profit or turnover, there are quite a few costs to running a sports team. They are where they are due to pie in the sky financial management a bit like Halifax
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